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What for a very small, but really good line mixer?
Old 20th June 2005
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Question What for a very small, but really good line mixer?

I´m interested in a small line mixer, even just 4 channels would be enough already, and it wouldn´t even need to have EQ or anything ( except maybe phase turn knob if something like that available ).

Something small, but of high quality that wouldn´t degrade the signal by any perceivable measure.

Anyone knowing of something like it?

Thanks in advance,

Ruphus
Old 20th June 2005
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You may want to look into the API 3124mb+, which offers 4 high quality channels of mic/line pre, phantom power and phase reversal, along with a stereo send/return with individual and master controls.
Old 20th June 2005
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there are a lot of little 4 channel mixers made specifically for broadcast and film that sound excellent. check ebay.


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Old 20th June 2005
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speck lilo !!
Old 20th June 2005
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Thank you guys, but with the Api I would have to pay for the pres in there too and the Speck is too big and much too expensive.

Gregoire, do you have some model names that I could look after?

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Old 20th June 2005
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Passive resistor network and a mic pre?

If the sources are mic pres, and gain is ample, just the passive resistor network can do it and nicely.
Old 20th June 2005
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You got me thinking ...
One of my mic pres has no line ins, but insert returns. I suppose going in there would work just as well?

Or .. wait, being a bozo, I guess I havn´t understood the concept yet. With using two pres how would I get the signals mixed?
( What I´m trying to achieve is summing a small amount of tracks outside the DAW.)

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Old 20th June 2005
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Originally Posted by Ruphus
You got me thinking ...
One of my mic pres has no line ins, but insert returns. I suppose going in there would work just as well?

Or .. wait, being a bozo, I guess I havn´t understood the concept yet. With using two pres how would I get the signals mixed?
( What I´m trying to achieve is summing a small amount of tracks outside the DAW.)

Ruphus
Damn, I wrote a whole thing here and the computer ate it! So do a search around the various forums on passive summing, and be sure to check John Klett's archives on PSW.

Basically, a couple cheap boxes with a few resistors and some wire inside can sum signals but the level is knocked down 25-40 dB or so, so you need to either crank the sources (easy with mic pre-amps most times) or put a mic preamp after the passive summing to make up the gain. That's why they call it make-up gain!

Like a stupidly simple mini-mini-folcrom.
Old 20th June 2005
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Thank you, Ted, also for the disappeared text!

Gonna check PSW, though I fear the hints there would be peppered with electronic terms. heh

Greets,

Ruphus
Old 21st June 2005
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I just bought a ROLLS line mixer... 11 stereo line inputs... just pan and level and 1 aux.
sounds great. i have it on one of my live keyboard racks.
Old 21st June 2005
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Thanks Klington,

I´m suspicious whether it could be good enough for studio demands, but found that there ain´t Rolls in Europe anyway. ( Shipping from US would cost as much as the mixer itself. )

Anyone tried these new Soundcrafts in a sonical quality environment yet?

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Old 21st June 2005
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okay, i just need one thing clarified: are you looking for a mixer, with level controls, or a simple summing network?

the former is going to run >$500 used for something of quality; the latter can be had new for about $80 and it sounds great.


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Old 21st June 2005
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A simple summing device with not less than 4 channels would be fine already if it would just not degrade the signal quality.
Havn´t seen any thelike box so far.

Ruphus
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