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quality alternative for a Mackie 1202 VLZ pro
Old 4th November 2004
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quality alternative for a Mackie 1202 VLZ pro

It's time to put my Mackie VLZ 1202 out to pasture.

I want to replace it with something that has similar inputs/outputs (4mono 4stereo inputs) and balanced outs. I would like to get something with better pre's on the mono in's and something a lot quieter than the 1202. I find if I turn up the main outs it outputs a very audible hf hiss. Any suggestions of a high quality small format mixer to replace it?
Old 4th November 2004

I think you need to look at your gain settings. Spec for the 1202 with all gains set to unity is -88dB of noise (referenced to a +4dBu signal). You can get quieter boards, but not by more than about another 8dB.

The pre-amps may contribute a bit more noise at high gain (from the specs it looks like they may put out -70dBu at max gain). The New Onyx mixers are about the same, except that they spec pre-amp noise at +60dB of gain at better than -125dB S/N.

The Soundcraft ghost is about the same.

The Soundcraft Compact 10 looks interesting, but the noise performance is a little worse.

Yamaha's MX12/4 is a little worse (and much worse if you use the sub-groups). The MG series is spec'd a bit weird, but probably about the same.

Behringer only specs mic pre-amp noise.

If you need better than -88dB with all channels nominal, you may have to go digital.


Old 4th November 2004
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be different remo. build your own mic pre's.
lots of fun.
i find all the cheap mixers boring.
Old 8th November 2004
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Well the Mackie Onyx 1202 would be a significant improvement, so I've heard.
Old 9th November 2004
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Yah, I'm thinking it would be a good way to go because I could also get some new ADAT in's into my Scope Home... I'll check one out soon!
Old 10th November 2004
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look into an allen and heath
Old 10th November 2004
Old 10th November 2004
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Neve BCM 10

:D :D :D
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