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12-Bit Keyboard Synthesizers
Old 5th September 2007
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Anybody know of a plugin or program that I can use to convert 16-bit samples to 12 bit? I can't seem to do it with Wavelab. Please help
Old 5th September 2007
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And you want 12 bit why......?
Old 5th September 2007
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Logic has a BitCrusher plugin to do such things, I guess some other DAW's have this too (dunno by mind).
You'd use 12bit for that vintage lofi sound, can be usefull to emulate old samplers for example.
Old 5th September 2007
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I believe Sound Forge can do it.
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Yeah there is a bit depth converter in sound forge, but it does 8,16,24,32. I did this years ago...but I cant remember how I did it...I had wavelab and sound forge though. What I did actually was took a 16 bit file, converted it to 12 bit, then back to 16 bit for compatibility.... If you really want it dirty, you convert once again to 12 bit and back to 16 as it will add extra ringiness. Super useful for cool sounds. So yeah...Is there an audio conversion software that will do this? One that I can do a bunch at a time? Thanks
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I'd be interested in some ideas too. I've been looking for a way to get those groovy sounds of the Super Nintendo, which is basically just really dirty 12bit samples. It sounds like your process of converting them over and over again could really produce some cool stuff.


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Old 6th September 2007
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The 8-bit conversion sounds wild on 808 drums. Also changing the sample rate to 22,050 creates fat sounds
Old 6th September 2007
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You'd use 12bit for that vintage lofi sound, can be usefull to emulate old samplers for example.
Thanks, didn't really ever used it so I was wondering (although I suddenly realize I used the Scifi from time to time to get some similar effect.)
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Old 6th September 2007
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I thought the SNES was 8 bit.
Old 6th September 2007
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I thought the SNES was 8 bit.
Nah - it was the NES that was 8-bit.
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The NES had it's own onboard synth to compose with. The SNES was in fact just a tiny rompler, and the composers had to load up their own instrument samples into the game cartridge. But because there wasn't much space, the samples are pretty short and shoddy, but that (combined with the 12bit sampling of the sound chip) kinda gave the SNES its 'slightly realistic but cheesy' sound quality which I love.


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The NES had it's own onboard synth to compose with. The SNES was in fact just a tiny rompler, and the composers had to load up their own instrument samples into the game cartridge. But because there wasn't much space, the samples are pretty short and shoddy, but that (combined with the 12bit sampling of the sound chip) kinda gave the SNES its 'slightly realistic but cheesy' sound quality which I love.


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They thought they were fixing the DX7 when they made it 16 bit...
Old 6th September 2007
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Nah the 12bit conversion sounds nothing like old samplers.
Samplerate conversion on the other hand with filtering can do a good job of emulating old samplers.

All I ever noticed when changing the bits to 12, 8, or lower was a fuzzy sound that sounded not even remotely close to my old s-900.

Working with the samplerate has always given me the best results.
Try samplerates between 16, and 32 khz.
Old 6th September 2007
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Anybody know of a plugin or program that I can use to convert 16-bit samples to 12 bit? I can't seem to do it with Wavelab. Please help
The difference between 16 bits and 12 bits is 24 dB. So take your Wave file, drop the level by 24 dB, save the file, re-open the file, raise the volume by 24 dB, and now you have 12 active bits.

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