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Alternative to shure sm57 on snare. Dynamic Microphones
Old 29th August 2007
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Alternative to shure sm57 on snare.

Can anyone suggest another snare type mic worth trying out? I have no problems with my sm57s but was just thinking about some alternatives.
I use my 57 for snare , toms and guitar cab. They are workhorse microphones but are there anything a bit more specialised for snare.Something a little brighter as I always find I am EQing a bit of tops on the snares anyway with the 57.

What about shure beta 57? Are they worth chasing up?
I have heard they can handle higher SPL?
Old 29th August 2007
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Bud,

Another sm57

(act like that link is for you...)
Old 29th August 2007
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save yourself the trouble of looking through that post:

Audix i5
Old 29th August 2007
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i like i5.
Old 29th August 2007
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Beyerdynamic M201
Old 29th August 2007
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Bud,

Another sm57

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AUDIX i5.
Old 29th August 2007
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Beyerdynamic M201
+1.
Old 29th August 2007
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Audix stuff is good. I like the D2 and D1. You might also try an EV408, or a senn 604. Those are my fav substitutes for the 57
Old 29th August 2007
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It starts with an A and ends with i5 on the dynamic side of things.

Condensor mics I still love the sE Electronics SE3. That thing delivers the body and soul of a snare drum man, I own great condition KM84's and prefer the SE3 to them on snare.

War
Old 29th August 2007
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Old 29th August 2007
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Love the M201.

The i5 is like a but fuller, less pointy version of the 57. It's the same type of animal.

The 201 is a different style. A bit more natural and unhyped.
Old 29th August 2007
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I've got both the i5 and the sm57. You need both.
Old 29th August 2007
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Another vote for i5.
Old 29th August 2007
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sennheiser md441

a true desert island mic, sounds good on every piece of your kit
Old 29th August 2007
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My favs are the KM84 and also my shure 545 with the unidyne III capsule Transformerless mod
gives u that motown snare. AS far as subs for SM57 this mainly for guitar cabs try a Audix D2 sounds great and also great for a bass cab
Old 29th August 2007
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Groove Tubes convertible!! Loving it on snare top!
Old 29th August 2007
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ALternative to a 57? Why?
Old 29th August 2007
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Hey!

I just got an JJ Labs HMR-7...
Great sound!
It´s a ribbon mic!
6-8" from the snare (Ludvig Supraphonic)...

Cheap too

Check it out!

T.
Old 29th August 2007
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EV RE-38N.........but good luck finding one.
Old 29th August 2007
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Old 29th August 2007
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ALternative to a 57? Why?
Because it makes everything put thru it sound like a wet paper bag....or he is busy using it to hammer nails.

Another vote for the M201.


Cheers,
David
Old 29th August 2007
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I won't knock the i5. It's great. but.... I wonder how many of the folks who recommend the i5 as a snare alternative have tried an m201.

Very different!
Old 29th August 2007
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II won't knock the i5, but.... I wonder how many of the folks who recommend the i5 as a snare alternative have actually tried an m201.
Probably not all since you can go down the block to GC and get the i5 so easily. The 201 is not as accesible
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I won't knock the i5.... but.... I wonder how many of the folks who recommend the i5 as a snare alternative have actually tried an m201.
I haven't. But I can't recommend something that I've never used either. You have some nice recordings so I personally respect your recommendation. The only thing that I'm wondering about is how well a SDC would capture a hard hitter in a hard rock/metal context. The hypercardioid pattern will obviously help with rejection, but what about capturing the transient and full-bodied sound of the snare?
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I won't knock the i5.... but.... I wonder how many of the folks who recommend the i5 as a snare alternative have actually tried an m201.
Me. I think the M201 is a more delicate sort of sound, not good on rock applications, better for more detailed stuff like brush playing or jazz. The i5 delivers much more body and has plenty of top to it as well in my opinion. Overall in the dynamic world I think the i5 will cover more snare duties well vs the M201.

Just my opinion. Here's a direct comparison of the two on snare duties.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/attac...x_i5_snare.mp3

War
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Old 29th August 2007
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I haven't. But I can't recommend something that I've never used either. You have some nice recordings so I personally respect your recommendation. The only thing that I'm wondering about is how well a SDC would capture a hard hitter in a hard rock/metal context. The hypercardioid pattern will obviously help with rejection, but what about capturing the transient and full-bodied sound of the snare?
An SDC is excellent on snare, but you can't really lay it right on the head like so many want to do. You will crap out most mics by getting within a couple of inches of the drum. Back it off a bit in most cases, very nice sound.

War
Old 29th August 2007
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I haven't. But I can't recommend something that I've never used either. You have some nice recordings so I personally respect your recommendation. The only thing that I'm wondering about is how well a SDC would capture a hard hitter in a hard rock/metal context. The hypercardioid pattern will obviously help with rejection, but what about capturing the transient and full-bodied sound of the snare?

Hey dizzle! The m201 is a dynamic mic.

However, SDC's can sound great on snare in the right context. That style of mic can pick up transients very well. There's an old trick where you can try taping a km 84 or 451 to a 57 use both signals. Also, an SDC pointed at the shell can be cool when a more natural snare sound is in order.
Old 29th August 2007
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M201

Another vote for the Beyer M201! I bought the 201 and an i5 at the same tme, ended up returning the i5. I record mostly indie rock type drums and for this application the 201 is excellent.
Old 29th August 2007
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The m201 is a dynamic mic.
Wow. So much for assumptions based on a picture... Now I really want one!
Old 29th August 2007
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I tried an AT2020 on the side of the snare shell. Gives a hell of a crack (you said you wanted more high-end, right?). FYI, I use a pair of MXL 603's for OH, and either an AT2020 or an MD421 on kick, and either a 57 on snare or the AT2020. Mackie VLZ board for pre's, and snare and kick through an ART Pro VLA compressor. That's it. Works pretty well for me! Andy
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