I'm looking for the best Rhodes emulation for Soulful House music...
RECORDING ITB with Cubase SX3....
Thanks in advance slutz!!!!!!!
ps I already have the EVP-73...
I have tried that VST myself, because I heard it was one of the most real sounding for piano simulations, but I havent been able to get the particular type of rhodes sound that I want out of it just yet.
It does sound good though, quality wise you would have nothing to worry about with Elektrik Piano, depending on what you want, you might have to play around with and tweak the sound.
by far the most realistic sounding IMO is the Scarbee one SCARBEE
the Vintage Keyboard Collection is available as a Kontakt library
or with a bundled Halion Player-
Another excellent is the freeware / shareware one by SoundFonts.it called Mr Ray 73. This is extremely close to the Scarbee EP and they also have a Wurlitzer - Mr Tramp and Hammond VB3 / Organised Trio. To round it all up there's even a free vintage keyboard FX called Effectizer a Leslie called Mr Mc Donald.
I own NI Elektrik Piano and have stopped using it since I found these!
Lounge Lizard 3 is pretty good for Rhodes and Wurli sounds, better than Elektrik Piano in my opinion.
Also very good, and free, is MDA ePiano which can be downloaded from here: PluginSpot
I've read elsewhere that ePiano is favoured by a few House producers in the funky/soulful genres.
I personally rate ePiano higher than MrRay/MrTramp but YMMV
One of the keys to getting a believable sound out of VSTi Rhodes/Wurli in my opinion is to run the output through an amp simulator to take the brittle and clean edges off it and add a bit of grit.
I'd say - depends on what kind of Rhodes sound you're aiming for. Lounge Lizard is great, as is (more "dry and real" sounding ) the EVP. But one freeware VSTi I recently discovered is Lazy Snake. Instantly gives you this warm "Air" (the french band) sound. I love it!
I have tried AAS Lounge Lizard, Native Instruments EP, love Lazy Snake as well but I took the red pill six month ago and went back to Mac.
I don't think Lounge Lizard sounds very realistic but it is nice to play with
and it sits OK in a mix: if you're heavily effecting your Rhodes, you might
get great results(built in FX are cool)
Native Instruments sounds closer to the real thing,
Scarbee's mp3 demo's sound quite convincing........
I have the Kurz K2600 with VintageEP-ROM and this one sounds really good,
again when used with FX, because clean doesn't cut it when soloed.
I have also a NordELectro2 which is great for live, when you don't want to sacrifice your back..., or a Rhodes part that must be clean(noise free and artifact free) and/or buried in the mix, otherwise you could hear it's not the real thing.
Don't get me wrong: ANY of the above instruments can sound good and musical, that's up to you!
But...having played & recorded several Rhodes MKI,MKII,Suitcase=
I must admit that I am jealous at the Protools-users, because they have Velvet now, which made me drool like a Tex Avery wolf seeing a couple of hot chicks, after I listened to the demo's on their website.
I work on LogicPro,Cubase4,Live6 but I might just buy an MboxMini only to use Velvet in Protools and import the results back in other DAW.
WHY? the most amazing feature to me is the sound of the hammers & pickups that have been captured really accurately and give this 3d depth of a real Rhodes(lacking in any of the above)PLUS the fact when you play Rhodes you hear those mechanics=leaving them out in a VI is a mistake/when you listen to even a DI'd rhodes behind the glass of the control room you hear those mechanics ticking PLUS here you can adjust the mechanic's volumes.
And it is definitely not "clinical" like most of the above.
That's a major issue for the other contenders, because yes you could throw in a cab simulator, distortion & other "gritty" FX but it just ADDS to the original sound, not incorporate it.
Velvet can sound smooth to dirty from the inside.
Actually I am VERY jealous at PT users......
Just go to Digi's site and listen to the demo, if you don't like that sound then you don't like the Rhodes.Period.(again I don't use PT nor am a salesman but I might just give in to this temptation for the Velvet)
Oh did I mention the included FX sound awesome
At the end, whether it is the closest possible emulation or not doesn't matter, it's your(or the key players') musicality that'll make that Casio sound great