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AKG C1000s Condenser Microphones
Old 30th March 2008
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Fair enough.

I mean, do you think that guy would really consider raping his dog?
Me thinks you have an unhealthy obsession with this dog raping comment. Yes it might have been a liittle 'over the top' as a parable of someones dislike for the C1000, but dude, you've used it in every one of your replies.
Old 30th March 2008
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Me thinks you have an unhealthy obsession with this dog raping comment. Yes it might have been a liittle 'over the top' as a parable of someones dislike for the C1000, but dude, you've used it in every one of your replies.
haha... no I haven't. I think maybe you're mistaking me for HeavyG?

But yes. It's getting to the point where we're going to need to start another thread titled: "Dog rape vs. AKG C1000 - Sound Examples!"
Old 30th March 2008
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haha... no I haven't. I think maybe you're mistaking me for HeavyG?

But yes. It's getting to the point where we're going to need to start another thread titled: "Dog rape vs. AKG C1000 - Sound Examples!"
LOL! heh
Old 30th March 2008
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Closing Comments

Man...that was well said. I would just say...don't let all the haters deter you from making great music....and yes you CAN make great music with just about anything. Hell, I think Aerosmith recorded a rhythm track of Steven Tyler smacking some stripper's bare asses...the maple drum police would not approve. They sound too much like birch...which as we know, is also not approved.

Peace...and tear it up.
Old 30th March 2008
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Let your ears decide...
i did long before i read anything about them here, and i was never impressed with them. that said i have had to mix a number of songs using them on OH and even on a guitar track. the individual tracks never sound great but they arnt so bad that you cant make them work in most situations. next to a pair of real mics i cant understand how anyone can bear the C1000s but if you are a half way decent engineer you make them work when you have to.

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Maybe not too bad if you're a Chinese mic importer, but for AKG to put something like that out is kinda a crime.
AKG just make so much crap now days the name has lost the value it once had. Chinese brands dont have to try to be as good as the European brands anymore because the European brands make cheap crap aswell. well not everything is crap but it just goes to show there is good and bad made in every country.

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those "pedestrian mics" that you mention are all twice the price of the C1000.
there are plenty of mics that sound better for less as well. a pair of C4s and an SM57 would be much more usefull than a pair of C1000s and still be cheaper.
Old 30th March 2008
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Worst

Mic

Evaaaa

The audio version of taco bell
Old 30th March 2008
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i did long before i read anything about them here, and i was never impressed with them. that said i have had to mix a number of songs using them on OH and even on a guitar track. the individual tracks never sound great but they arnt so bad that you cant make them work in most situations. next to a pair of real mics i cant understand how anyone can bear the C1000s but if you are a half way decent engineer you make them work when you have to.


AKG just make so much crap now days the name has lost the value it once had. Chinese brands dont have to try to be as good as the European brands anymore because the European brands make cheap crap aswell. well not everything is crap but it just goes to show there is good and bad made in every country.


there are plenty of mics that sound better for less as well. a pair of C4s and an SM57 would be much more usefull than a pair of C1000s and still be cheaper.
This is the low end forum. How does a low end guy have access to all of these other options? As I said...wish I had a pair of U87s ...Oktavas...Avensons...etc. I don't. I had to buy like 6 mics, a keyboard workstation, monitors, amps, software, etc. They were the second thing I bought (the KRK RP5s were the first...the Rode NT1A was the third...expecting more SCUDS any second)....I know several fellow pro musicians that have them...and they like them. For my application, as a small diaphram condensor on drum Overheads and mic'ing acoustic guitar...I think they do a good job. Evidently, the guy who used them in the Clapton and Crowes gigs must have also. Send the angry mob after them, too...
Old 30th March 2008
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I know where you're at HeavyG, the C1000's were the first set of mics I bought years ago (other than the 58's and 57's from the live days) and i've always felt they served me well. With a fair amount of time with placement and EQ I could MAKE them work. I still like what they do for an acoustic guitar in a dense mix, even though i've since added a number of mics to my collection (414EB, AT4060, 2xR121's, and a few others). Since you're on a tight budget (aren't we all) I thought i'd mention i've recently picked up some low-end mics that have gotten pretty decent reviews.
The MCA SP-1: I picked up a pair for $80 at PSSL.com. A SDC that works quite well on OH's. I don't care much for them on vocals, and haven't tried them on acoustic guitar, but for OH's they give me a nice, clean yet aggressive sound, without the biting high-mid of the C1000. And MUCH better than the SP-B1 or C1.
Karma K-Micro: Available right from Karma, $20 for 4 mics until stock runs out (they've re-tooled for a version II). I used a set on acoustic guitar a couple nights ago and was pleasantly surprised. A nice clean tone for dense mixes without the biting high-mid of the C1000.
I will still undoubtably use the R121's for 'smooth' OH's and solo guitar work, but these cheap little mics are great for the money. There is a $125 mod for the SP-1 which extends the highs and lows, but I don't yet find it necessary. I'll probably keep the C1000's for a 'special use' but for the time being they've gone in the mic drawer.
Old 30th March 2008
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Next Step

Thanks for the great feedback. As a true Slut...I am always on the lookout for my next upgrade (and even the one after that)...so I have heard the Oktava (319), AT Pro 37s...any others that might be an option for $300-500 budget? We are talking strictly for drum overheads and acoustic guitar/shaker/mandolin/etc...
Old 30th March 2008
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Originally Posted by SaxJordan View Post
Worst

Mic

Evaaaa

The audio version of taco bell
Here's my contribution for this everlasting thread:

http://mlab.taik.fi/~lbruun/Riodoc/Acarin_slummi.mov

There you go. A video clip(from Rio de Janeiro) that was entirely recorded with a single c1000 going straight to top quality Sony camcorder mic preheh

Now tell me what's wrong with the sound quality in this clip.. was I ******** for choosing c1000 to my setup?


FYI this clip was broadcasted(among 6 other clips) on the Finnish national TV-2 last year and I don't recall anyone whine about the sound quality.

Old 30th March 2008
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Lightbulb

my newly acquired Avantone sdc tube rules on acoustic; I've used it on drum room with success as well- I imagine it would be a nice overhead. If the price tag is too high ($399), consider the non tube ck1, or perhaps Groove Tubes and Sterling are the same mic repackaged. Oktava mc/mk012 are solid mics- but be sure to get authentic Russian
Old 30th March 2008
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Originally Posted by norman_nomad View Post
haha... no I haven't. I think maybe you're mistaking me for HeavyG?

But yes. It's getting to the point where we're going to need to start another thread titled: "Dog rape vs. AKG C1000 - Sound Examples!"
Ha...


"Are either of you homosexual?"

"You mean like...............FLAMING?"

"Well, no...but we are willing to learn"

(The previous Stripes movie quote was not meant to disrespect homosexuals...it just came to mind with the "fun with farm animals" theme going around.
Old 30th March 2008
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Tasty

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Originally Posted by lbruun View Post
Here's my contribution for this everlasting thread:

http://mlab.taik.fi/~lbruun/Riodoc/Acarin_slummi.mov

There you go. A video clip(from Rio de Janeiro) that was entirely recorded with a single c1000 going straight to top quality Sony camcorder mic preheh

Now tell me what's wrong with the sound quality in this clip.. was I ******** for choosing c1000 to my setup?


FYI this clip was broadcasted(among 6 other clips) on the Finnish national TV-2 last year and I don't recall anyone whine about the sound quality.

I love the way that cat massaged the snare drum...ghost note heaven. Great clip...thanks for sharing.
Old 30th March 2008
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Originally Posted by lbruun View Post
Here's my contribution for this everlasting thread:

http://mlab.taik.fi/~lbruun/Riodoc/Acarin_slummi.mov

There you go. A video clip(from Rio de Janeiro) that was entirely recorded with a single c1000 going straight to top quality Sony camcorder mic preheh

Now tell me what's wrong with the sound quality in this clip.. was I ******** for choosing c1000 to my setup?


FYI this clip was broadcasted(among 6 other clips) on the Finnish national TV-2 last year and I don't recall anyone whine about the sound quality.

Millions of people eat at Taco Bell every day and most of them don't whine about the quality (I hope for your sake they don't have Taco Bell in Finland .. if there is I apologize on behalf of my country )

If the C1000 worked for you and your clients were satisfied, that is terrific! Not ******** at all if it got the job done. Please don't take it as any kind of personal criticism or put down if some of us hate a piece of gear you feel you have made good use of. Mics are just a tool and sometimes any old mic is good enough for the job. Any mic is better than no mic, no?

I don't like the C1000, it think it is a noisy, muddy microphone and that video does nothing to change my opinion.

The battery-powered function and ruggedness of the C1000 probably made it very practical for that kind of remote recording situation and I certainly would not want to bring an expensive mic to Rio. It was also probably a step up from the built-in camcorder mic (although I wont give the C1000 the benefit of the doubt without an A/B heh).

There's nothing 'wrong' or completely unlistenable about the sound quality on the video. Its just that there are worlds of difference between 'good enough' and excellent. Most of the discussion on GS is focused on trying to achieve the best possible sound in a studio environment and my loathing of the C1000 is in that context.

A lot of people have asked rhetorically 'is there ANYTHING a C1000 sounds good on'?? I think the answer is still no, but I think taking a C1000 to do a remote recording in Rio De Janeiro wins the award for being the best application for the C1000 anyone has come up with so far thumbsup
Old 30th March 2008
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Q:How do you get two AE's to brawl? A:Lock them in a room with a C1000 and let them fight to the death...Seriously now,can't you guys start a BUZZ about this "classic mic" and drive the price up like a KM84???? Just delete EVERY negative post and I can sell my pair. (Had 'em pre-divorce/GS era,so my bad judgement doesn't count)
Old 30th March 2008
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Millions of people eat at Taco Bell every day and most of them don't whine about the quality (I hope for your sake they don't have Taco Bell in Finland .. if there is I apologize on behalf of my country )
heh Thank god they haven't arrived here!(yet..)

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The battery-powered function and ruggedness of the C1000 probably made it very practical for that kind of remote recording situation and I certainly would not want to bring an expensive mic to Rio. It was also probably a step up from the built-in camcorder mic (although I wont give the C1000 the benefit of the doubt without an A/B heh).
Precisely! If the tool is right and practical for the job then I use it - it's simple as that. And with this particular mic I was actually quite surprised how well it sounded even when I used prosumer hdv-camcorder mic input that surely was hissy(equal to minidisk mic in)


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A lot of people have asked rhetorically 'is there ANYTHING a C1000 sounds good on'?? I think the answer is still no, but I think taking a C1000 to do a remote recording in Rio De Janeiro wins the award for being the best application for the C1000 anyone has come up with so far thumbsup
Thanks!
It did a good job there as an ENG broadcast mic. Also, I've used it as a percussion(e.g bongo, tambourin) stage mic with workable results.

Obviously it wouldn't be #1 choice in my studio sessions, but with the appropriate sound source I wouldn't hesitate to give it a fair shot over some 10 x more expensive mics we have in the closet.

Old 30th March 2008
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Q:How do you get two AE's to brawl? A:Lock them in a room with a C1000 and let them fight to the death...
Would they get to use one of these ?
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Old 30th March 2008
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Dare I say...

...the C1000S is the Britney Spears of microphones? I have never seen any piece of gear elicit this kind of response. I am expecting the GearSlutz authorities to pull up with a straight jacket any second and confiscate my drumset...I am an unfit microphone parent.
Old 30th March 2008
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...the C1000S is the Britney Spears of microphones? I have never seen any piece of gear elicit this kind of response. I am expecting the GearSlutz authorities to pull up with a straight jacket any second and confiscate my drumset...I am an unfit microphone parent.
LOL... Oh yeah... all you need to do is mention that you own ANY piece of Beh*inger gear... but don't do it

Myself.. I figure it's the Corey Feldman of mics
Old 30th March 2008
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I have never seen any piece of gear elicit this kind of response.
Start a thread claiming that Behringer sounds better than a u47


Edit: OMG, in the time it took me to type this, someone beat me to it.
Old 31st March 2008
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A little late...

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Little defensive there?

Yes this is low end, where some of the newer folks come to learn from those who have experienced these kinds of things. And it isn't just about how much you spend, but spending wisely.

There are much better sounding condenser mic's for the money. In fact for less money. But if you know better, have at it. heh
Dude...lets see someone insult your intelligence (see some of the quotes) the way C1000 owners were insulted and see if you dont get a little defensive. If you think people saying things that are way out of bounds is objective commentary from people who know better...well, I say peace be with you. Hey...I come here to find out what to buy from savvy vets. I don't think that the "advice" that was given was professional or savvy. It is way too acceptable around here to say things like "I have kicked two drummers out of bands for playing birch kits" or "you would have to threaten to rape my dogr"...well that is just silly. That isnt the kind of advice I would expect from a "pro" who knows better...

Wait...did I miss your words of wisdom (you mentioned spending wisely...what did that mean)? What mics are so much better for drum overheads and acoustic guitar/mandolin, etc. that is in the same price range ($299 a pair)?
Old 31st March 2008
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Well...we're waiting (in Judge Smales voice)

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You are probably right. However, the advice you get here is free, there is no cost of admission to the site.

And this is the internet, people have fun with it in many different ways, some people have fun making fun of others. Not right I suppose,then again this site is FAR more tame than the internet in general, in my experience. Have a laugh and get over it.
Your words of wisdom? So that I won't have to put up with this public shaming any longer? I expect that any minute now, the Abbey Road Gurus will show up to escort me to the Town Hall where I will be flogged with Royer R121s. What mics in the same price range ($299 a pair) are good for drum overheads and acoustic guitar/mandolin, hand percussion, etc.?

I have heard Oktava 319s and AT Pro 37s...
Old 31st March 2008
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I have an AKG 1000s... and this thread doesn't offend me in the least.

Heck... I've recorded with it many times, and may well again if it sounds good to me in that setting. No point being sensitive or shy about it.
Old 31st March 2008
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How doth thou sucketh...let me count the ways

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No words of wisdom..


Just one schlub's opinion. Oh, and the c1000 sucks. heh
...indeed it would seem that it does. Thus ENDETH the lesson...
Old 31st March 2008
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I just can't help jumping in here.....to the thread that wouldn't die....

To re-iterate -

THE C1000 HAS A NASTY, ANNOYING METALIC RING TO IT.



It is the ONLY mic I have ever used with that problem.



That's what it comes down to -

Some things add, some subtract.

This one ADDS something unfortunate.
Old 31st March 2008
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I just can't help jumping in here.....to the thread that wouldn't die....

To re-iterate -

THE C1000 HAS A NASTY, ANNOYING METALIC RING TO IT.



It is the ONLY mic I have ever used with that problem.



That's what it comes down to -

Some things add, some subtract.

This one ADDS something unfortunate.
Sorry to hear that...I haven't had that experience with mine. I don't have much in terms of reference material to compare their performance to...since they are my first SDCs. They have worked great for me so far in a number of applications...but then again, I am a rookie and I am not recording Van Halen....just my own project work. I am sure that once my ears become trained I will find that they can outsuck Christy Canyon (old school porn star)....
Old 31st March 2008
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Who knows...maybe I got a 'bad' one. Really! Who's to say if some ring like that and some don't.

Glad yours works for you. That's no joke. A tool that works for you is a good tool.

As for Christy.....pretty awesome....!

- Phil
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Who knows...maybe I got a 'bad' one. Really! Who's to say if some ring like that and some don't.

Glad yours works for you. That's no joke. A tool that works for you is a good tool.

As for Christy.....pretty awesome....!

- Phil
I could only hope that my AKG C1000s sucks HALF as well as she does...and yes...she is spectacular. The modern silicone barbie dolls have NOTHING on Miss Canyon.
Old 10th April 2009
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How does the c1000 compare to a c451 or c460?

I know this is an old post but I was checking out the c1000 as an addition to my collection.
I really want to know if anyone has done an A/B comparison with the c1000 to some older more expensive AKG (c451, c460, or c490). I don't own these but was an engineer for 11 years at a studio. I like the 460 personally for acoustic.
Do the c1000 compare to these mics at all?
HangMan you said you don't like any of AKG C series. Whats that about man?
Are you talking about the above mics I mention as well?
Thanks Guys and Gals (if there are any here)
Old 10th April 2009
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C1000s Mod?

There's a lot of c1000s' around. Has anyone come up with a mod?
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