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Old 5th December 2019
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New Preamp

Hello Guys,

I‘am interested to buy a new Preamp for upgrading my Studio

For me would be the Favorite the Tegeler VTRC or the WA73.

Any experiences with this? Or some new Ideas?


I produce, record most Hip Hop/Rap.

Microphone - TLM103
Interface - Apollo Quad FW

Thanks and Cheers
Old 5th December 2019
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Well between the 2 the WA76 is a limiting amp, and does not have a Mic Preamp.
Old 5th December 2019
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Well between the 2 the WA76 is a limiting amp, and does not have a Mic Preamp.
Oh sorry i mean the WA73 EQ Single Channel
Old 5th December 2019
  #4
Budget?
Old 6th December 2019
  #5
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You've got a unison interface - demo every mic pre in unison mode and pick what your like best as a starting point for hardware - actually you may find you're happy with "the choosen one" don't forget to listen in a mix - not just raw vocals. 2) then demo a UAD tubetech CL 1B MkII on the vocal track!
Old 6th December 2019
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Budget?
C.a 2k, if its cheaper its would Good also lol. :D
Old 6th December 2019
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Used/excellent condition Avalon 737 around $1500?
Chris
Old 6th December 2019
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Used/excellent condition Avalon 737 around $1500?
Chris

Oh a Avalon would be interesting too, unfortunately i had some bad experiences with used Gear :(
Old 6th December 2019
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Sorry to hear that.
Recently, there was a thread regarding...
Taming the brightness of a 103, here at GS.
You may want to review it.

Also you could check out the Louder Than Liftoff,
Silver Bullet & Chroma.
Chris
Old 6th December 2019
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Also you could check out the Louder Than Liftoff,
Silver Bullet & Chroma.
Chris
Yes, the SB pres are nice then you get the NEVE > API, API > NEVE, just API, just NEVE options giving you a world of flavours.

Although you still haven't said if you've demo's all the UAD mic-pres in Unison mode - that would give you an idea of the sort of pre that sounds good with your voice and mic.
Old 6th December 2019
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Yes, the SB pres are nice then you get the NEVE > API, API > NEVE, just API, just NEVE options giving you a world of flavours.

Although you still haven't said if you've demo's all the UAD mic-pres in Unison mode - that would give you an idea of the sort of pre that sounds good with your voice and mic.
At the Moment i record with UAD Mic Pre of the Neve 1073.
I'll try your Tip with the Cl-1B

Any experiences with the Avalon from UAD?
Old 6th December 2019
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At the Moment i record with UAD Mic Pre of the Neve 1073.
I'll try your Tip with the Cl-1B

Any experiences with the Avalon from UAD?
Wrong person really, there are a lots of people that love the 737 - I find it rather bland - I've used real ones and tried the UAD emulation - neither do anything for me - they're not bad - good sound but they just don't tug on the old heart strings! The compressor's quite nice though for tracking - but I prefer a 2A in that role.
Old 6th December 2019
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for me Great river pre worked great with TLM 103.
Old 6th December 2019
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Don't laugh, but I bet the "Deluxe" version of the GAP-73 would sound pretty darn good too...
(but I'm confident both the LTLO stuff & the Ty Ford mentioned "Mickle" Pre mentioned in that TLM thread are superior)
Chris
Old 6th December 2019
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Don't laugh, but I bet the "Deluxe" version of the GAP-73 would sound pretty darn good too...
(but I'm confident both the LTLO stuff & the Ty Ford mentioned "Mickle" Pre mentioned in that TLM thread are superior)
Chris
Do you mean the Deluxe (which there is one or more) or the "premier", the latter simply has soldered connections rather than connectors.

I have a GAP PRE-73 III DLX - the model variant (coz there's more than one) with the selectable pad on the output transformer. I think it's a great little pre - doesn't sound that much like a 1073 to me though but it does add a certain mojo that I like a lot - it also has tonnes of gain - it's a killer bass DI - especially with the output pad on.

Various models of the the GAP pre do sound quite different - and going by the fact that the premier one is all soldered joints I guess there's no reason why anyone can't get their soldering iron out and turn their Deluxe into a Premier!
Old 6th December 2019
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Yep. Excellent post.
Chris
Old 6th December 2019
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man unless you are simply just wanting to spend the money and have an actual piece of hardware to play with, I think you should look hard to doing what was mentioned above and demo the UAD preamps that you can use in unison and see which of those you like best with the 103......you may be surprised at how great they sound and will be far cheaper than actual hardware......I used to own the hardware version of the 737 and a 103 and they paired well together for me.
Old 7th December 2019
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Originally Posted by chessparov2.0 View Post
Don't laugh, but I bet the "Deluxe" version of the GAP-73 would sound pretty darn good too...
(but I'm confident both the LTLO stuff & the Ty Ford mentioned "Mickle" Pre mentioned in that TLM thread are superior)
Chris
Doesn't sound worse than the warm audio.
The Warm sounds pretty bad.
They did a much better job with API clones (tone beast etc) than the Neve
Old 7th December 2019
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If you want the neve sound and don't want to spend a fortune for a vintage one... BAE is the way to go.
If you want something really cheap..sound skulptor mp573 is incredible for the price.
Much better than warm audio or GAP.
Pretty close to the real deal tbh.
It's API lunchbox format..so you'll need a lunchbox if you don't have one.

The avalon is not what I choose first for rock...but for rap it's a proven workhorse.

One bad experience with used gear should not deter you from the second hand market.
I buy used and sell all the time and had very few problems in 15 years (other than regular maintenance) absolutely worth it.
And buying second hand is great for the planet
Old 4 weeks ago
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http://www.greweb.com

killer pre's!
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