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Genelec cs Kali Audio Studio Monitors
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Genelec cs Kali Audio

Hi guys,

I want to buy my first pair of monitors. I compose and mix mainly experimental music, techno, soundscape compositions, sometimes beats. I need really clear and flat sound.

Which of these would you recommend for me?

Used Genelec 8010/8020B or C vs Kali Audio LP-6?

I have a small room with quite good acoustics, but it is not professionaly prepared studio.
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The two Genelec you mention have 3” and 4” woofers. The Kali has a 6.5” woofer. As much as I respect the Genelec name, I would never recommend 3” or 4” speakers as monitors for any serious purpose.
The Kali has a woofer that can reach into bass frequencies, and the published specs seem believable for the price. It doesn’t seem that they will play very loudly, if that is important to you. BUT... I’ve never heard of Kali before today, so I can’t recommend them with honesty or enthusiasm.
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The two Genelec you mention have 3” and 4” woofers. The Kali has a 6.5” woofer. As much as I respect the Genelec name, I would never recommend 3” or 4” speakers as monitors for any serious purpose.
The Kali has a woofer that can reach into bass frequencies, and the published specs seem believable for the price. It doesn’t seem that they will play very loudly, if that is important to you. BUT... I’ve never heard of Kali before today, so I can’t recommend them with honesty or enthusiasm.
The Kali are fairly new. They are made by people who once worked on speakers for Harman. When Samsung acquired Harman they left to start their own speaker company. Now having said that, I've not heard any of the speakers. Though they are getting a bit of a buzz for being rather good.
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There are some pros and cons in buying monitors from a new company. The introductory price is usually lower than comparable speakers from established brands to generate sales and create some buzz. So you might be getting a very good price on good speakers that lack only a reputation. But there is also a possibility that the startup company will go out of business in a couple of years, leaving you without factory service. For speakers at this price point, that isn’t a huge risk in terms of money, so that isn’t the potential problem it would be if the speakers cost thousands of dollars.
If this was my choice, and I had to choose between the choices the OP outlines, I’d buy the Kali. I don’t believe there is any magic that can make 3” speakers acceptable for mixing.
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Not tried Genelecs personally but the Kali are solid monitors for the money: I reviewed the LP-6 here and currently testing the LP-8.

Kali produced the Lone Pine (LP) range as an intro of the company's sound and tech; future plans include more expensive studio monitors. Kali are a great company to deal with and have professional standards; I expect them to last given the quality of their monitors.

Genelec's have a great reputation too and I can't recommend one over the other but as noted, the size of the Kali's woofer is favourable in terms of bass energy for a wider frequency range.
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Thanks guys! I used to work on Genelecs 8020A at my Uni studio and I love them! They are very flat, detailed and transparent. However, they are all connected to Genelec subwoofer and as I checked, it is impossible to work on some low frequencies without this subwoofer. Would Kalis be better? Do they have a good, clean (and true) bass even without additional woofer?
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Welcome to Gearslutz jacej
Not tried Genelecs personally but the Kali are solid monitors for the money: I reviewed the LP-6 here and currently testing the LP-8.

Kali produced the Lone Pine (LP) range as an intro of the company's sound and tech; future plans include more expensive studio monitors. Kali are a great company to deal with and have professional standards; I expect them to last given the quality of their monitors.

Genelec's have a great reputation too and I can't recommend one over the other but as noted, the size of the Kali's woofer is favourable in terms of bass energy for a wider frequency range.
What is your initial rough thoughts on the LP8 vs the LP6 you reviewed? I am very interested in upgrading and the prices with Kali seem like a steal.
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What is your initial rough thoughts on the LP8 vs the LP6 you reviewed? I am very interested in upgrading and the prices with Kali seem like a steal.
One is not necessarily better than the other; more a case of what best suits your room/needs.
The LP-8 is better-suited to more than one listener (wider sweet-spot) and has more bass energy; better for tracking with. The LP-6 is better for close nearfield position. The review will be published soon; can't say more than that now.
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You might get better mixes on the Genny's with a bass check on some headphones.. for "desktop mixing" the Kali's are serious overkill
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You might get better mixes on the Genny's with a bass check on some headphones.. for "desktop mixing" the Kali's are serious overkill
By “overkill” do you mean that the listener might actually hear some of the bottom two octaves? And that’s a bad thing?

Mini woofers are underkill, and often recommended in relation to room size and distance, which is a very persistent non-scientific myth.
“I pity the fool” who buys tiny speakers because of this myth.
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I used to work on Genelecs 8020A at my Uni studio and I love them!
However, they are all connected to Genelec subwoofer and it is impossible to work on some low frequencies without this subwoofer.
Listen to yourself.
Loving quality tiny speakers under a subwoofer is understandable. Hoping you will feel the same love WITHOUT a subwoofer is a leap into space with no landing in sight.
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