The No.1 Website for Pro Audio
 Search This Thread  Search This Forum  Search Reviews  Search Gear Database  Search Gear for sale  Search Gearslutz Go Advanced
Compression Kick and Snare while Tracking
Old 17th April 2019
  #1
Gear Head
Compression Kick and Snare while Tracking

Hey Guys,

Do any of ye compress your kick or snare drum while tracking??

If so, how much db, what are your settings and whats your favourite compressor for the job?

Thanks,

Keating
Old 21st April 2019
  #2
Lives for gear
 
BIG BUDDHA's Avatar
every time. been doing it that way since the 80s.

usually a DBX -160S these days.

3 to 5 db gain reduction unless the drummer has poor control.

the DBX is super fast attack so i set it to the slowest attack setting.

i also usually use the quickest release setting.

note the 160s is fast as all hell, so the slow settings are not that slow.

i will post a shot of my usual settings.

Buddha
Attached Thumbnails
Compression Kick and Snare while Tracking-dbx-160-s.jpg  
Old 21st April 2019
  #3
Gear Head
Great thanks Buddha
Old 21st April 2019
  #4
Gear Maniac
 
Konfus's Avatar
 

I would, if I had a 1176 for every channel. But I have only one, so this is for the wurst-mic. Beside of this, everything goes clean into my daw.
Old 21st April 2019
  #5
Gear Head
Thanks guys, I have a dbx160a and a Klerk teknik 1176, so I was thinking of the 160 on the kick and the 1176 on the snare just catching the really high peaks, what ye think?
Old 21st April 2019
  #6
I always compress compress kick and usually snare. The exception being if I'm short on time while recording a whole band and I'm struggling to find a good setting.
How much really depends on the song and the drummer; if it's hard hitting rock og four on the floor disco 3 to 5 DB, if it's very dynamic stuff it's more like 1 to 3.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG BUDDHA View Post
every time. been doing it that way since the 80s.

usually a DBX -160S these days.

3 to 5 db gain reduction unless the drummer has poor control.

the DBX is super fast attack so i set it to the slowest attack setting.

i also usually use the quickest release setting.

note the 160s is fast as all hell, so the slow settings are not that slow.

i will post a shot of my usual settings.

Buddha
I use the DBX 166XL on kick. Would you happen to know if it's equally fast? I usually just have the attack just right of the middle, around two of clock. It works well for me most of the time but do you think setting the attack even slower would work even better?
Old 21st April 2019
  #7
Lives for gear
 
BIG BUDDHA's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keating View Post
Thanks guys, I have a dbx160a and a Klerk teknik 1176, so I was thinking of the 160 on the kick and the 1176 on the snare just catching the really high peaks, what ye think?
it would work ok.

i have 2 x 1176s, but to be truthfull, i dont often use them on kick and snare.

i prefer a compressor that has a variable threshold control on an independant knob, on those sources.

with an 1176 the gain reduction is a function of signal input, which is something slightly different. more gain in, more signal level, more compression.

on a DBX 160-S the compression is totally dependant on the threshold knob setting, and you just rotate it left and right untill you get the desired level of compression, and like the sound. Very simple.

also it has over easy mode which is sometimes usefull.

the DBX-160S also has a sidechain input, which makes it more variable than a stock 1176. so thats why i generally use the DBX over the 1176s for drums.

but there is no reason you cant use an 1176 on snare, and lots of engineers do.

1176s on drums was all the rage for room mics, especially in mono, in the 80s and 90s. still today perhaps.

Buddha
Old 26th April 2019
  #8
Lives for gear
 
subspace's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keating View Post
Hey Guys,

Do any of ye compress your kick or snare drum while tracking??

If so, how much db, what are your settings and whats your favourite compressor for the job?

Thanks,

Keating
160XTs

kick and snare

hard knee, 2-5dB, 4:1

smack smack
Old 26th April 2019
  #9
Gear Head
Quote:
Originally Posted by subspace View Post
160XTs

kick and snare

hard knee, 2-5dB, 4:1

smack smack
Cool and what attack and release settings??
Old 26th April 2019
  #10
Lives for gear
 
subspace's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keating View Post
Cool and what attack and release settings??
The dbx ones, they are threshold/ratio/output boxes
Old 26th April 2019
  #11
Gear Head
Quote:
Originally Posted by subspace View Post
The dbx ones, they are threshold/ratio/output boxes
Oh yeah, how much db are you knocking off? or are you just catching the high peaks?

Thanks
Old 27th April 2019
  #12
Lives for gear
 
subspace's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keating View Post
Oh yeah, how much db are you knocking off? or are you just catching the high peaks?

Thanks
2-5dB on the regular, digs in more when the drummer gets excited on the downbeat of the chorus
Post Reply

Welcome to the Gearslutz Pro Audio Community!

Registration benefits include:
  • The ability to reply to and create new discussions
  • Access to members-only giveaways & competitions
  • Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As
  • Access to members-only sub forum discussions
  • Access to members-only Chat Room
  • Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio Classifieds for only USD $20/year
  • Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free
  • Remove this message!
You need an account to post a reply. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered.


 
 
Slide to join now Processing…
Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Similar Threads
Thread
Thread Starter / Forum
Replies
hollow / So Much Gear, So Little Time
21
blinkSaunders / Newbie Audio Engineering + Production Question Zone
11
mattg082 / Electronic Music Instruments and Electronic Music Production
6
Astro / So Much Gear, So Little Time
17
LMS / So Much Gear, So Little Time
33

Forum Jump
Forum Jump