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Anybody try the Behringer U-PHORIA UMC204HD?
Old 19th May 2016
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Anybody try the Behringer U-PHORIA UMC204HD?

Looking to buy this interface, but still hesitating between the Behringer U-PHORIA UMC204HD and the FOCUSRITE SCARLETT 2i2. The Behringer has more options and is cheaper but I'm wondering about those Midas pre-amps... are they clean?

Also, any latency issues? Want to use this with Pro Tools...

Thx!!
Old 19th May 2016
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I was also considering the Focusrite Scarlet for my laptop.
But ,after reading about it I chose not to go for it.

I also was thinking about the Behringer interface.I don't know about the Midas pres ,those might be actually quite good ,BUT I have also rejected it too.

Unfortunately , Behringer prompts to AsiO4all driver download.and no matter how good their drivers might be ,I want a company to sit and program a PROPER driver specifically for the hardware they make.This cheapo approach makes me sick , cause oine of the reason people buys pro-sumer-professional quality audio interfaces is driver stability.
In my opinion driver stability is really important.Now if you are a mac user ,Behringer might be functioning very good with macosx, I don't know.
My suggestion is ,forget about both these and go for something else.
Old 19th May 2016
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Hi All,

While the ASIO4ALL drivers do work great with some of our products, we often do provide our own proprietary drivers for many of our products, including our U-PHORIA UMC Audio Interface products. These drivers are very stable and can easily be downloaded for free from our website.

Here's the link for the U-PHORIA UMC204HD drivers on our website:
UMC204HD | Audio Interfaces | Computer Audio | Behringer | Categories | MUSIC Group

And to answer clydetower's question, the MIDAS Mic pres on these units are clean and sound incredible at this price point.

Let’s keep in touch,

Michael Lapke
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Old 20th May 2016
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sonicapg, what did you go with?

Michael, awesome customer relations .
Old 21st May 2016
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sonicapg, what did you go with?

Michael, awesome customer relations .
Atm ,nothing .My E-mu 0202 usb ,and mbox mini does the job for the moment when using laptop.My main DAW is Sonar X3 with Emu 1820 audio interface
Old 21st May 2016
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Hi All,

While the ASIO4ALL drivers do work great with some of our products, we often do provide our own proprietary drivers for many of our products, including our U-PHORIA UMC Audio Interface products. These drivers are very stable and can easily be downloaded for free from our website.

Here's the link for the U-PHORIA UMC204HD drivers on our website:
UMC204HD | Audio Interfaces | Computer Audio | Behringer | Categories | MUSIC Group

And to answer clydetower's question, the MIDAS Mic pres on these units are clean and sound incredible at this price point.

Let’s keep in touch,

Michael Lapke
Specialist, Community
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Hi Michael ,

I am very pleased to know I was wrong
I was actually looking for -another - USB audio interface for my laptop...and considered the UMC22 mainly cause of its price.I do have some laptops so I need auduio interfaces to use them for vst instruments.

So I looked on the Behringer's site for UMC22 drivers ,and for this , only Asio4all is available

http://www.music-group.com/Categorie...0AUX/downloads


and thought that asio4all drivers would also apply to the other interfaces of the range.
Their supported list of interfaces appears in the "UPHORIA UMC SERIES SUPPORT SHEET" pdf document , on page one [this document is part of the driver file " UMC_DRIVER_V3.29.0_WIN7TO10.ZIP"

"Supported Interfaces:
 UMC202 (96 kHz + 192 kHz) / UMC202HD (192 kHz)
 UMC204 (96 kHz + 192 kHz) / UMC204HD (192 kHz)
 UMC404 (96 kHz + 192 kHz) / UMC404HD (192 kHz)
 UMC1820 (96 kHz)"

Last edited by sonicapg; 21st May 2016 at 11:37 AM..
Old 21st May 2016
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Hi Michael ,

I am very pleased to know I was wrong
I was actually looking for -another - USB audio interface for my laptop...and considered the UMC22 mainly cause of its price.I do have some laptops so I need auduio interfaces to use them for vst instruments.

So I looked on the Behringer's site for UMC22 drivers ,and for this , only Asio4all is available
You don't want the UMC22 though, it's USB1.1 and is part of the Xenyx series (IMHO, harsh and noisy preamps)

The UMC204HD has the "Midas" preamps from the X32 and better conversion, and some useful stuff like 4 outputs (useful when tracking someone else and he wants his own dedicated headphone mix) and Inserts on the preamps.
Old 21st May 2016
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You don't want the UMC22 though, it's USB1.1 and is part of the Xenyx series (IMHO, harsh and noisy preamps)
Care to provide a link to the specs that show this?

The information I find most everywhere for the UMC22 states MIDAS preamp and USB2.0
UMC22 | Audio Interfaces | Computer Audio | Behringer | Categories | MUSIC Group
Old 21st May 2016
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You don't want the UMC22 though, it's USB1.1 and is part of the Xenyx series (IMHO, harsh and noisy preamps)

The UMC204HD has the "Midas" preamps from the X32 and better conversion, and some useful stuff like 4 outputs (useful when tracking someone else and he wants his own dedicated headphone mix) and Inserts on the preamps.

I agree , I just considered this (UMC22) for myself for VST instruments only.UMC204HD is very well specified ,indeed.
Old 24th May 2016
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Care to provide a link to the specs that show this?

The information I find most everywhere for the UMC22 states MIDAS preamp and USB2.0
UMC22 | Audio Interfaces | Computer Audio | Behringer | Categories | MUSIC Group
It appears I got it confused with the UM2. The UMC22 does have the MIDAS preamp.

As for the USB connection, buried deep somewhere it says USB 2.0, but the fact that it's limited to 48KHz and that they don't provide a driver for it are sort of a red flags. (Not that I believe that maxing at 48KHz is a problem, but it's usually indicative of a USB1.1 interface.)

That said, having not personally used it, it's pure speculation at this point.
Old 24th May 2016
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I agree , I just considered this (UMC22) for myself for VST instruments only. UMC204HD is very well specified ,indeed.
If you're using a MIDI keyboard to pay those VST instruments, then latency matters (delay between pressing a key and hearing the note). I'd be weary of an interface for which the manufacturer doesn't even provide a driver.

Also, being able to run at a higher sample rate is one way of diminishing latency. (UMC22 tops at 48KHz)

That said, the UMC204HD is not necessarily better on the latency front, but it sure inspires more confidence.
Old 27th October 2016
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What is the DA conversion like on this interface? Any comparisons? Can't find any info on this. I'm used to an Echo Mia card. Are the converters the same across the entire range? Or are they using different ones for different models? Also, what is the heaphone amp like?

Thanks
Old 26th January 2017
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Hi, I wish I am not so late on this topic. This is actually my question too.

I am a composer and I work with DAW's. I wanted to buy umc204HD but I saw that umc22 and umc204 are more compatible with vst instruments. But since I also wanna connect my synthesizer to the computer, then what's the right choice?
Any answer is appreciable. Thanks
Old 26th January 2017
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Hi, I wish I am not so late on this topic. This is actually my question too.

I am a composer and I work with DAW's. I wanted to buy umc204HD but I saw that umc22 and umc204 are more compatible with vst instruments. But since I also wanna connect my synthesizer to the computer, then what's the right choice?
Any answer is appreciable. Thanks
Hi Elias,

What do you mean by saying that the umc22 and umc204 are more compatible with VSTi's than the umc204HD?

I'd like to buy the umc204HD but the guy at local music store told me that they are back-order here in Canada. I'll have to wait at least 2 months he said

Marc
Old 26th January 2017
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Thanks for reply Marc,

About umc22 and umc204, I mean if you refer to the product website they have mentioned these audio interfaces are good for composers/people using DAW programs:
UMC204 | Audio Interfaces | Computer Audio | Behringer | Categories | MUSIC Group
https://www.music-group.com/Categori.../UMC22/p/P0AUX

I am also interested to know the reason. Here in my country umc204HD is available but I am a bit confused, I don't know which one to buy. I wish Behringer masters or anyone interested in this topic could give an answer about this.
Old 26th January 2017
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Hi again Elias,

In my case I would rule out the umc22 because it doesn't feature a MIDI interface; I need it for my hardware synths. Between the umc204 and 204HD, the 204HD goes up to 192 kHz, the 204 to 96 kHz. I think this is the only difference, so I guess that the 204 is not more compatible with VST instruments. Also, the umc204 is stated as a 'Lagacy product' on Behringer web site, i.e. not manufactured anymore I suppose. So my dilemna: should I wait, or should I go for something else....

Marc
Old 26th January 2017
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Hi again Elias,

In my case I would rule out the umc22 because it doesn't feature a MIDI interface; I need it for my hardware synths. Between the umc204 and 204HD, the 204HD goes up to 192 kHz, the 204 to 96 kHz. I think this is the only difference, so I guess that the 204 is not more compatible with VST instruments. Also, the umc204 is stated as a 'Lagacy product' on Behringer web site, i.e. not manufactured anymore I suppose. So my dilemna: should I wait, or should I go for something else....

Marc
So informative, Marc. The situation is now more clear to me, I honestly ruled umc22 out for same reason, Although that's really a good product. This way I guess 204HD is the best choice (that I wish you could access soon).
Old 8th November 2017
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And to answer clydetower's question, the MIDAS Mic pres on these units are clean and sound incredible at this price point.

Let’s keep in touch,

Michael Lapke
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Michael, I can't find the specs anywhere on how much gain the mic pres have on the UMC units. Do you know? I just ordered the 404.
Old 9th November 2017
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Michael, I can't find the specs anywhere on how much gain the mic pres have on the UMC units. Do you know? I just ordered the 404.
Yes! I can confirm that the mic pres on the Behringer UMC audio interface units are Max. +56 dB of gain.

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Old 10th November 2017
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Appreciate that info as well.

Can you pls forward it on to your web site people to put those specs on your products? tbh it's a frustrating site to deal with (not just because of that, but that was part of it for me)
Old 10th November 2017
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I have the UMC404HD, and it's a great piece for the money.

Reliable, quiet and low latency.

Only dislike is the lack of a power switch and unfortunately mine came with the clipping light for input one on all the time (even without anything connected) - all other inputs are fine and it still works as it should otherwise.

One thing that I noticed in comparing specs is that it seems that the 202 has higher dynamic range than the 404 for some reason.

In any event, a good unit for an amazing price and I'm not planning to upgrade until I need more inputs which will be a while.

Greg
Old 10th November 2017
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I've been interested in one of these U-Phoria units as an affordable one-size-fits-all interface for a primitive iPad home recording setup. My understanding was that it was class compliant and would work with an iPad, provided that you supplied power to it using a USB powered hub. Can anyone confirm that they've used it on an iOS device?

There are several options for this, and my $25 UCA202 from Behringer has pretty much covered my interface needs thus far (with a few workarounds), but this one device seems like it could replace the function of at least 3 other items I'm using right now (UCA202 interface, DIN MIDI interface, Mackie 5-channel mixer). It also should have better audio quality. Latency is always the concern with me, but reviewer after reviewer seems to indicate it's not a problem.
Old 12th November 2017
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I own a UMC202HD and I'm very pleased with it. It's bus powered and class compliant, the mic pre's sound great (they're quiet), and it's durable. I've beaten the **** out of mine (it all accompanies me for field recordings of vocals, dialogue and other various tasks.) and it keeps asking for more.
Old 21st November 2017
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My drummer and I have been tracking on the 4 input version using Reaper for a few sessions. The interface sounds good and has its own drivers. Drum overhead condensers and dynamic kick mic sound great. My Lovelpedal Bonetender fuzz guitar directly into the instrument input sounds really good too. High marks for good sound and low $. Nicely done Behringer.
Old 21st November 2017
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I have the 204HD, can’t beat it for the money, I’ve used it to do a XY recording of a choir. 2 track a rock band for practice demos. I’ve done vocals, guitars both direct and mic’d, electric and acoustic. While the preamps are Midas design, they aren’t exactly a component match to Midas preamps. They are decent though. I think it’s a good interface that does exactly what it’s supposed to, at a very good price point.
Old 21st December 2017
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I could use a cheap 2 in 2 out audio interface for recording the occassional 2 channel stereo in from a sound module, plus monitoring DAW from headphones.

I’m looking at the UMC204HD - which could be ideal for the cost.

I wanted to check a few things:

Will it work with an iPad Pro via USB adapter?
In that setup, will it be bus powered?

I read that it may not work with iOS / OSX without firmware updates that require Windows to complete (I’ve only a Mac and iPad handy at the moment). Is that true?

Also interested in this at it’s a small one box solution with midi i/o, potentially making a great mini portable setup.

Is there anything else I should consider at this price point or so?
Old 21st December 2017
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I'm looking to purchase one of these as my first audio interface but have a question - does anyone know if its multiclient? I really like being able to tab out of my DAW and hit up youtube, twitch etc, but ASIO4ALL locks my soundcard to my DAW. However, if I choose FL Studios ASIO driver that doesn't happen.

Do Behringers ASIO drivers behave the same way? This is pretty important to me and will be the deciding factor on whether I get this or go for something else.
Old 23rd December 2017
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I think having read more about this, this seems a good choice for me.

But, I can’t figure out, would it work directly with iPad and usb connection kit, or it must have a powered hub in between?

If the latter, I wondered if there’s a battery powered usb hub available. Trying to avoid too many cables, power supplies and keep things portable...
Old 26th December 2017
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I don't know about the usb but I can tell you the drivers are fine for window 7 and windows 10. very stable no problems.
Old 26th December 2017
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I used the bigger Behringer ADA8200 for about a month while an interface was being repaired. I'm on Mac, and the unit worked very well for me. Zero driver issues, plug and play. Sound was very acceptable, on par with the MOTU stuff I thought. Preamps were fine. Not something I'd use in a demanding commercial situation, but 200 bucks? A nice interface for the budget home studio.
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