The No.1 Website for Pro Audio
Tascam Model 24 phantom/condenser question
Old 14th October 2020
Here for the gear
knadles's Avatar
Tascam Model 24 phantom/condenser question

This may seem like an odd question, but it's based on a negative experience with "cheaper" desks, and I want to ask before I buy.

Not doing anything live right now, but I work with an itinerant theater company and one of the key things we do is live audio (i.e. "radio") theater. Right now I use an AH ZED-22FX, which has more inputs than I need, but also has plenty of phantom to keep 8-12 condenser mics fully powered and happy from 60-80 feet away.

My old MIUSA Mackie most certainly did not. With four or more condensers powered up, I'd start to get strange sounds, feedback issues, etc. I have attributed this (without proof, just evidence and instinct) to the Mackie being a little underpowered. Either the 48V sagged or lacked enough current. The desk was fine with a bunch of dynamics or 1-2 condensers, but adding more condensers became problematic.

I'm considering the Tascam Model 24 as a possible upgrade from the AH. I like the idea that I could multitrack with it, which would allow us to record shows for remix/release later. Right now I can only pull two channels into my Sound Devices recorder. But I don't have much experience with Tascam mixers. I'd prefer to avoid "Me neither, but you should be fine," responses. Has anyone actually used one of these in a live setting with a bunch of condensors? If so, what was your experience?

Thank you,
Old 14th October 2020
Lives for gear
This is probably not the answer you wanted to hear, but I'd highly recommend a digital board for what you do.
For just a bit more than the Tascam costs, you can get Behringer X32 Producer or if you add a bit more money, X32 Compact. A digital console would give you so much more control of sound and instant recall would make complex shows much easier to run.

If you can buy used, you can get a decent digital board for less than the Tascam costs.

Re. phantom: by standard, it's supplied to each XLR input via two 6.8 kOhm resistors - max. current is ~14 mA. While I've heard that there was some gear that supposedly had problems, I can't imagine that someone would design a board that couldn't supply enough current nowadays.
Old 15th October 2020
Here for the gear
knadles's Avatar
I knew someone was going to suggest going digital. I've thought about it, but I'm old school and I like to just reach over and put my hand on a knob. Our needs aren't that complicated anyway.

Regarding the phantom, I agree...there shouldn't be an issue. There should NEVER be an issue with that. But a lot of stuff is targeted to the "prosumer" market these days, and a unit that might be fine with a couple of MXLs and a half dozen 57s, could go bonkers when I put 12 or more condensers on a stage!

📝 Reply
Post Reply

Welcome to the Gearslutz Pro Audio Community!

Registration benefits include:
  • The ability to reply to and create new discussions
  • Access to members-only giveaways & competitions
  • Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As
  • Access to members-only sub forum discussions
  • Access to members-only Chat Room
  • Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio Classifieds for only USD $20/year
  • Promote your eBay auctions and listings for free
  • Remove this message!
You need an account to post a reply. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered.

Slide to join now Processing…
🖨️ Show Printable Version
✉️ Email this Page
🔍 Search thread
🎙️ View mentioned gear
Forum Jump
Forum Jump