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switch to Soundcraft Ui24r from X32 or not?
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switch to Soundcraft Ui24r from X32 or not?

thinking to switch to Soundcraft Ui24r from X32 compact.

I usually do festival type of events where multiple different performers participate not just one band, and weddings.
which only require 3-4 monitors, 8-20 inputs, and stereo or stereo + 1 aux for recording.

X32 compact usualy is an overkill especially during setup,
with something like UI24R I can just have it rack mounted with wireless receivers which will speed up set-up / tear down times for me significantly.

the features that I realy find better in UI24R over X32:
-AFS feedback suppression
-mute group naming
-longer faders in "app"

but the thing I'm really concerned about is the wireless connectivity issues,
(with X32 I use external router and use ipad 80% of the time for mixing,
but having hardware faders is a safe back up if connection drops)
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The biggest concern for me about UI24R is the wifi conenctivity issue.
Is it still present ?
How often it occurs ?
Or has it been fixed or improved in new firmware update ?
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The Ui24 is a better sounding mixer; however, it really may disappear into the mix depending on your speakers and mics.

As for the wireless drop-out, you can use your external router with the Ui24 just as easily as you do with your X32.

If your priority is ease of transport, setup and breakdown, then the Ui24 (or X32 Rack for that matter) is a better option than the X32 Compact (which really isn't that compact).

I am currently an X32 Rack user; however, if I were to buy today, I might well opt for the Ui24.

Note, that if you are truly concerned about a wireless issue ruining your gig (I have never had that issue in literally hundreds of uses), then the X32 Rack does have a basic physical UI.

Either the X32 or the Ui24 can be used with a wired connection to a laptop as a non-WiFi dependent backup.

The X32 can connect to the X-Touch controller via the UltraLink connector (Ethernet cable).

Either the X32 Rack or the Ui24 would fit the bill for you if you currently mix 80% from your tablet app IMO.
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The Ui24 is a better sounding mixer; however, it really may disappear into the mix depending on your speakers and mics.

As for the wireless drop-out, you can use your external router with the Ui24 just as easily as you do with your X32.

If your priority is ease of transport, setup and breakdown, then the Ui24 (or X32 Rack for that matter) is a better option than the X32 Compact (which really isn't that compact).

I am currently an X32 Rack user; however, if I were to buy today, I might well opt for the Ui24.

Note, that if you are truly concerned about a wireless issue ruining your gig (I have never had that issue in literally hundreds of uses), then the X32 Rack does have a basic physical UI.

Either the X32 or the Ui24 can be used with a wired connection to a laptop as a non-WiFi dependent backup.

The X32 can connect to the X-Touch controller via the UltraLink connector (Ethernet cable).

Either the X32 Rack or the Ui24 would fit the bill for you if you currently mix 80% from your tablet app IMO.
What router are you using ?

Any special settings ?
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the features that I realy find better in UI24R over X32:
-AFS feedback suppression
-mute group naming
-longer faders in "app"

but the thing I'm really concerned about is the wireless connectivity issues,
(with X32 I use external router and use ipad 80% of the time for mixing,
but having hardware faders is a safe back up if connection drops)
Have you tried the "better features" in the UI24 and know you want them, or do they just look sexy on the spec sheet? And, BTW, with the Mixing Station app, you can make your faders as long as will fit on your screen with X32!

If you have your mixer stage-side, then all you're really gaining with the UI24 is a smaller package and different workfow - and 4 additional inputs. An external router is still recommended - however good a built-in router is, it's never going to perform well with its antenna buried in with the rest of your cables.

As OneEng mentioned, an X32 rack is the more direct comparison, and a change that you could make with no great adjustment to your workflow. More or less the same price as the UI24R.
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I would be a lot more concerned about managing 8 - 20 wireless mics/inputs than an I-Pad controller for S R mgt. Momentary blips in remote S R mgt are rarely the type of disaster that wireless mics experience in todays heavy RF areas!
Hugh
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I use a Ui24R and LOVE it.
Make sure you update it to firmware version 3 and get an external router for it.
Good to go.
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Have you tried the "better features" in the UI24 and know you want them, or do they just look sexy on the spec sheet? And, BTW, with the Mixing Station app, you can make your faders as long as will fit on your screen with X32!

If you have your mixer stage-side, then all you're really gaining with the UI24 is a smaller package and different workfow - and 4 additional inputs. An external router is still recommended - however good a built-in router is, it's never going to perform well with its antenna buried in with the rest of your cables.

As OneEng mentioned, an X32 rack is the more direct comparison, and a change that you could make with no great adjustment to your workflow. More or less the same price as the UI24R.
Didn’t try it with the mixer just played with app
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I would be a lot more concerned about managing 8 - 20 wireless mics/inputs than an I-Pad controller for S R mgt. Momentary blips in remote S R mgt are rarely the type of disaster that wireless mics experience in todays heavy RF areas!
Hugh
I only use 2-5 wireless mics, everything else is wired
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What router are you using ?

Any special settings ?
Asus 66u

I don't use any special settings but would recommend hiding the SSID.
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