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Old 23rd February 2019
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Meyer's new ULTRA-X40 loudspeaker.

New addition to the UPA line.

Meyer Sound ULTRA-X40

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PRELIMINARY PRODUCT INFORMATION

Meyer Sound’s new ULTRA-X40 design continues the tradition of the highly successful UPA loudspeakers—so versatile they have been a universal standard in almost every application for over 35 years. From touring performances to theme parks, worship venues to Broadway shows, and lecture halls to large scale concerts, Meyer Sound technology has delivered exceptional fidelity with high power, low distortion, and uniformly predictable behavior.
To this legacy, Meyer Sound incorporated technology from the popular and award-winning LEO® Family of loudspeakers to bring multiple enhancements to bear in the ULTRA-X40 design:

• An innovative, newly designed, highly efficient class D amplifier that reproduces any sound source with linearity over a wide dynamic range.

• Over 20 lbs (10 kgs) of weight reduction, as well as a reduction in overall size compared to the UPA loudspeakers for increased power to weight and size ratios.

• A concentric driver configuration with all the benefits of a coaxial driver, yet none of the disadvantages. In addition, this configuration supports directional control of frequencies down to 400 Hz.

• An extremely well-behaved rotatable horn designed for very precise, even coverage. This horn design, in conjunction with the concentric driver configuration, delivers the same pattern despite the orientation.

With these enhancements, the ULTRA-X40 loudspeaker provides high power output, low distortion, and consistent polar response in a more compact, vented enclosure. The loudspeaker features two 8 in cone low- frequency drivers and one 3 in diaphragm compression driver coupled with a rotatable 110° x 50° Constant-Q horn. A more controlled pattern is available on the ULTRA-X42 model, which is fitted with a 60° x 50° constant-Q horn.

Because of its proprietary, high-frequency horn, the beamwidth remains consistent within close tolerances in both the horizontal and vertical planes, and across the horn’s operating frequency range. Uniformly predictable polar behavior takes much of the guesswork out of system design and assures optimal system performance.

A proprietary three-channel, class D digital power amplifier powers the ULTRA-X40 loudspeaker, which has a total peak power output of 1950 watts. Audio processing includes electronic crossover, correction filters for phase and frequency response, and driver protection circuitry. Phase- corrected electronics ensure flat acoustical amplitude and phase response, resulting in exceptional impulse response and precise imaging.

The amplifier/processing package incorporates Meyer Sound’s Intelligent ACTM, which auto-selects the correct operating voltage, suppresses high voltage transients, filters EMI and provides soft-start power-up. The ULTRA-X40 cabinet provides audio XLR and powerCON20 input and looping output connectors.
The optional RMSTM remote monitoring system module provides comprehensive monitoring of loudspeaker parameters from a host computer running Compass® software.

Meyer Sound builds the trapezoidal enclosure out of premium multi-ply birch with a slightly textured black finish. A powder-coated, hex-stamped steel grille provides protection to the front of the loudspeaker.
The ULTRA-X40 includes 11 integral M8 rigging points. It also includes an integral 35 mm stand mount receptacle with M20 threads for added stability. With this versatile integrated rigging, the ULTRA-X40 is ready for a wide variety of applications including those requiring pole mounting, hanging individually in horizontal or vertical orientations, or clustering.

Optional rigging accessories include an adjustable 35 mm pole with M20 slug, U-bracket, yoke, pick-up plates for horizontal and vertical mounting, and cluster plates for horizontal and vertical loudspeaker grouping. Other options include weather protection and custom color finishes.

ACOUSTICAL
Operating Frequency Range
60 Hz – 18 kHz

Phase Response
100 Hz – 16 kHz ±45°

Linear Peak SPL1
130.5 dB (M-noise), 128 dB (Pink Noise), 131.5 dB (B-noise)

COVERAGE
Rotatable horn: 110° x 50° (ULTRA-X40) or 60°x 50° (ULTRA-X42)

TRANSDUCERS
Low Frequency
Two 8 in cone drivers

High Frequency
One 3 in diaphragm compression driver connected to a rotatable horn

AUDIO INPUT
Connectors
XLR 3 female input with male loop output. Optional XLR 5-pin connector to accommodate both balanced audio and RMS signals.

Input Level
Audio source must be capable of producing of +20 dBV (10 V rms) into 600 Ω to produce the maximum peak SPL over the operating bandwidth of the loudspeaker.

AMPLIFIER Type
3-channel, Class-D
Total Output Power
1950 W peak

AC POWER
Connectors
powerCON 20 input with loop output
Safety Rated Voltage Range
100–240 V AC, 50–60 Hz

CURRENT DRAW
Maximum Long-Term Continuous Current (>10 sec)
2.3 A rms (115 V AC); 1.16 A rms (230 V AC); 2.8 A rms (100 V AC)

PHYSICAL
Dimensions
W: 12.51 in (318 mm) x H: 22.31 in (567 mm) x D: 14 in (356 mm)

Weight
< 55 lb (25 kg)

Enclosure
Premium multi-ply birch with slightly textured black finish
Protective Grille
Powder-coated, hex-stamped steel
Old 23rd February 2019
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Horn loading wins again
Old 25th February 2019
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I can't wait for more of this stuff to hit the markets. Finally the companies are seeing that there's quite the gap between what can be done with a sub and a top per side and a line array. For most 300-1000 cap gigs it's pretty hard to rent a nice conventional PA these days. I'm quite sure that this cute little dual 8" won't fit that bill either, but a 212 or 215 variant just might. With neodymium magnets and super light enclosures it's easier than ever to stack a nice PA alone or with two people.


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Old 25th February 2019
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I can't wait for more of this stuff to hit the markets. Finally the companies are seeing that there's quite the gap between what can be done with a sub and a top per side and a line array. For most 300-1000 cap gigs it's pretty hard to rent a nice conventional PA these days. I'm quite sure that this cute little dual 8" won't fit that bill either, but a 212 or 215 variant just might. With neodymium magnets and super light enclosures it's easier than ever to stack a nice PA alone or with two people.


Dutchy
I completely agree. It's a positive sign to see a top tier manufacturer building a new, modern point source box for smaller spaces, which is not potentially compromised by a design intended to pull double duties as a floor monitor.

There is definitely some need for new compact, arrayable and lightweight yet potent, stackable/pole-mount trap boxes for the mid-size room market.

There are already some (admittedly rather large) neat install solutions, such as EAW's QX series - but they don't seem to work/get used in portable hire inventory, no doubt for sensible and practical reasons.
Old 25th February 2019
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This market segment is fairly well established...high-end, relatively expensive, short-throw systems that sound and perform better than MI boxes, but just like the MI boxes, they cannot be arrayed and don't offer nearly as much flexibility as they should. Every pro manufacturer produce one or more (small) speaker on a stick, on a sub system, with limited flexibility. The UPA-2 would have been a great candidate but unfortunately it was never really marketed like that and then there was the cost.

Apart from better sound (performance in general) and build quality, these boxes don't offer much more over some MI boxes...the good fallout will probably be more and less expensive UPA-1/2 boxes on the used market as some companies get these new boxes. I see this more as a marketing shuffle than a serious technical revolution.
Old 25th February 2019
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Sam, I totally get that in respect of the Meyer X40 we are seeing a bit of marketing spin, yet with genuine potential for progress. It's quite close to a powered version of the impressive d&b Y10p, similarly the X42 specs are close enough for rock'n'roll to a Y7p - including rotatable horns.

To paraphrase your verbiage, I'm thinking more along the lines of a medium-throw box, retaining the relative light weight, simple ease of deployment and flexible coverage option.

My enthusiasm was more directed at the potential for larger new designs, which take advantage of advances in technology to pack more output into similarly lighter, more manoeuvrable and compact packaging.

I like this design, in the way a symmetrical pair of LF drivers are packaged in concave fashion (potential for semi-horn loaded efficiency benefits?) to create a quasi-coaxial two-way. As the LF drivers get bigger, the larger the HF horn and waveguide = effective pattern control down to lower frequencies, hence less wasted energy/greater efficiency.

I appreciate there are already products capable of this kind of performance, but it seems many folks have focused on line array designs, as opposed to updating their point source catalogue.

I'm not really interested in MI boxes, they are always going to serve a bigger and different market. I'm hoping for a better pro option, for example a design with the output, flexibility and interchangeability of Arcs - but light enough to be easily put in a frame on a sturdy pole, rather than needing subs to stack or flying to work best.

I see fascinating designs from experienced semi-professionals and well-credentialled specialists, who build for the various elements of the soundsystem scene. For example boxes that pack the equivalent driver compliment and broadband directivity of a KF850 into a smaller and lighter package.

Unfortunately those interesting designs inevitably orientate towards a more industrial aesthetic, which suits that particular purpose.

My hope was that an accessible name like Meyer could package neo drivers and lightweight amps+processing into a respectable box, that could comfortably array two per side on sturdy portable stands, easily covering 400+ for speech programme - especially useful where subs are neither required nor aesthetically desirable.

I'll concede there are decent compact line array solutions for the larger mid-sized spaces, such as JBL's 4886 + 4883 - which in my experience does a decent job, even when flown as small dash arrays (as long as the V4 or 5 processing is used of course).

However the latter solution seems overly complicated, when compared with innovative solutions such as the remarkably effective and efficient Danley Synergy Horns. Unfortunately I have to drive 3 hours south, just to hear and see them...but I digress.

TL;DR - I'm sure the X40 works at least a bit better all around, compared with what came before. I'm more interested in seeing something that scales up all the weight-saving and other practical efficiencies employed in that design. I don't care who builds it, as long as it gains traction and I can actually use it!
Old 26th February 2019
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can't blame meyer trying to replace an older design but i can't see a huge step in a unique direction (and i don't like the marketing bs).
will be interesting to hear when they become available (and more widespread) and then compare...
Old 26th February 2019
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I'm hoping for a better pro option, for example a design with the output, flexibility and interchangeability of Arcs - but light enough to be easily put in a frame on a sturdy pole, rather than needing subs to stack or flying to work best.
That could have been the Meyer Sound UPA2

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I see fascinating designs from experienced semi-professionals and well-credentialled specialists, who build for the various elements of the soundsystem scene. For example boxes that pack the equivalent driver compliment and broadband directivity of a KF850 into a smaller and lighter package.
There is Danley.

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TL;DR - I'm sure the X40 works at least a bit better all around, compared with what came before. I'm more interested in seeing something that scales up all the weight-saving and other practical efficiencies employed in that design. I don't care who builds it, as long as it gains traction and I can actually use it!
We're back to the UPA2 again...which is a more flexible box than the X40 in my opinion, at least they can be arrayed which means the system can be scaled up easily.

I agree with almost everything in your post, there is just one thing...I don't really see this box as a revolution, or anything special, its just another new box that will offer more of the same. A loudspeaker on a stick on a sub...that won't scale up.
Old 27th February 2019
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That could have been the Meyer Sound UPA2


There is Danley.


We're back to the UPA2 again...which is a more flexible box than the X40 in my opinion, at least they can be arrayed which means the system can be scaled up easily.

I agree with almost everything in your post, there is just one thing...I don't really see this box as a revolution, or anything special, its just another new box that will offer more of the same. A loudspeaker on a stick on a sub...that won't scale up.
Samc,
There's also X42 with 60x45 coverage. That's what I preordered. I didn't get to hear it at ISE but several of my friends who are Meyer users were there and they were blown away by the clarity and power. The old UPA-1p and 2-p were not that impressive but these X40/X42 are. They're not shipping until end of March in the US.
Old 27th February 2019
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can't blame meyer trying to replace an older design but i can't see a huge step in a unique direction (and i don't like the marketing bs).
will be interesting to hear when they become available (and more widespread) and then compare...
Marketing aside, they do have new drivers and amps and a different design so they will be different. Several of my friends who already have UPJ and UPQ have heard them at ISE in Amsterdam and were so impressed they preordered right on site. The clarity and power to size ratio is utterly impressive. I also bought a few, I don't see how they're not better than UPAs. The price point is only a bit higher than UPJ. I think they wanna fight with d&b Y series
Old 27th February 2019
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Samc,
There's also X42 with 60x45 coverage. That's what I preordered. I didn't get to hear it at ISE but several of my friends who are Meyer users were there and they were blown away by the clarity and power. The old UPA-1p and 2-p were not that impressive but these X40/X42 are. They're not shipping until end of March in the US.
I'm pretty sure they sound good and are relatively loud, but I can list a number of existing systems that sound good and are loud too. my question however is how flexible will this system be, how easy will it be to scale up or fine tune the output coverage this system...can either of these boxes be arrayed?

My argument is that in the small to medium sound-system/venue market, only small to medium line arrays offer easy scaleability, these one boxes systems will either fit a situation or they won't, they do not offer critical and minute sound design possibilities....110°x50° or 60°x45°, this is the kind of coverage you will mostly need in outdoor situations, or as near fills in really big SR situations.
Old 13th March 2019
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Ultra X40

I heard this box yesterday paired with there there 700 sub and it sounded absolutely incredible!!!!. The Clarity and punch this box delivered I have never expericed before.
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I heard this box yesterday paired with there there 700 sub and it sounded absolutely incredible!!!!. The Clarity and punch this box delivered I have never expericed before.
Was it the Ultra-X40 or X42, and do you mean 750-LFC sub? I take it that they're offering this as a serving suggestion . . . and of course outboard DSP is then a requirement, so was there a Galileo box with it? And (sorry for the question barrage) did you get a chance to hear it with live sound, or just playback?
Old 18th March 2019
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Yes, Sorry 750-LFC. I Believe yes the Ultra-X40. Yes running through Galileo Galaxy Processor. Was Just playback.
Old 8th May 2019
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So how crazy expensive are these things? $6,000......or more???
Old 21st May 2019
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So how crazy expensive are these things? $6,000......or more???
No not that high. List price is $5600 per box. They're not shipping yet. Supposed to ship by April but nope..too many preorders to fill. We're hoping to get them by July.
Old 27th June 2019
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I can't wait for more of this stuff to hit the markets. Finally the companies are seeing that there's quite the gap between what can be done with a sub and a top per side and a line array. For most 300-1000 cap gigs it's pretty hard to rent a nice conventional PA these days. I'm quite sure that this cute little dual 8" won't fit that bill either, but a 212 or 215 variant just might. With neodymium magnets and super light enclosures it's easier than ever to stack a nice PA alone or with two people.


Dutchy

I bought the Fulcrum Acoustic FA22ac for this reason. 2 neo 12" drivers with one being dual concentric. I run a corporate band and we can easily run events with 1000+ people (focusing sound on the dance floor) paired with one or two Danley TH118 subs clustered in the middle. Powered tops are 65lbs each and can be pole mounted for a very fast setup. Subs are around 160lbs and come with castors. They're pricey, but I've never come across another system with this much fidelity and output in a package of this weight and physical size. The only thing I've never experimented with is the arrayability of these tops, which I'm a little afraid to try with the coaxial horns... not sure how successful that will be.

I definitely have my eye on these X40's though as they shave a little more size and weight off. Not sure if they'll quite reach the spl I have with the FA22ac's, but they may be a bit more scaleable if they array well. It would be great to A/B these boxes and I'm looking forward to hearing reports of people with actual experience with the new Meyers.

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Old 30th June 2019
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A bit offtopic, but... I am in the process of finding a upgrade for my band sound. We are currently running a 2x QSC KW153 over KW181. So speaker on the pole setup, or more accurately, speaker on the sub. They sound great, but many bands in my region started upping their sount, with many going line-array way, which I think is useless, expecially indoor, in wedding/corporate parties. Their sound is bigger, but not really better, because many dont understand what a line array is, and they come with 2-3-4 speakers per side, which are no line array, but I digress.

So, what we need next is an upgrade on our sound, but I don't want to go to multiple box per side setup, so for the moment I try to find the "best" single speaker. I don't want, at the end of the day, to spend hours getting down a line-array setup.

Fulcrum is interesting, but in Europe is harder to find, so my interest has got me to RCF's top box, the TTL6a. Has anybody heard them, or have any comparison to any other higher-up speaker? And with KW153 too.
Old 1st July 2019
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So, what we need next is an upgrade on our sound, but I don't want to go to multiple box per side setup, so for the moment I try to find the "best" single speaker. I don't want, at the end of the day, to spend hours getting down a line-array setup.

Fulcrum is interesting, but in Europe is harder to find, so my interest has got me to RCF's top box, the TTL6a. Has anybody heard them, or have any comparison to any other higher-up speaker? And with KW153 too.
I think you are on exactly the right lines avoiding crappy "dash" arrays, and looking at capable single box solutions such as the TTL6a.

It's a mightily impressive box, both in quality and output. The coherent focused mid/high coaxial arrangement works really well, as long as the wide 90° horizontal coverage pattern isn't reflecting off any surface.

It's a pretty big box, but that combined with the 5° downward tilt of the vertical dispersion, makes it just right to stand alone on theatre-type stages. Then simply aim it appropriately, and depending on the shape of the room you can probably get away with just a single pair of tiny boxes for infill or outfill.

I'm not really familiar with your QSC boxes, though as I recall the 3-way is the model not cursed with their conical and broad HF horn. Hence you might not be used to deploying boxes with such wide horizontal coverage, which may or may not be an issue depending on the rooms involved.

There are other decent less expensive options from RCF and DB Tech. The NXL44 and IG4T are smaller 2-way designs, but both have hefty HF drivers and put out a lot for such skinny boxes - with similarly wide horizontal dispersion.

All three can be arrayed in pairs, with appropriate compensation settings on the DSP. I've not much experience using them that way, so you would need to check the specs for each box to see what options that gives in terms of changing the vertical coverage pattern.

The latter two are a fair bit smaller than the TTL6a, and sit neatly on an 8004 sub to get just about high enough - though personally I'd ideally want them flown a bit higher (I'm probably being a bit picky here though, just going by a couple of local venues with the NXL44 properly installed).

You really need to demo any of these options. The sound and capabilities will probably surprise and hopefully impress you, but if you're used to playing though powered trap boxes run to the ragged edge for maximum output - the sound might seem a bit different, if you A/B at those volumes.

Fulcrum Acoustic are really interesting, especially the clever integration of innovative passive crossovers with the TQ processing which can be used on most modern DSP platforms. However they don't seem to have much European presence, which likely means limited or no easily accessible aftersales care.

If you can get to Manchester, you could demo Danley SM80s for a more conventional tops on poles over subs type rig. There are probably other places to do this, but Neuron Pro Audio have a lot of experience with the brand and have been excellent ambassadors for Danley in the UK.
Old 11th September 2019
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Was it the Ultra-X40 or X42, and do you mean 750-LFC sub? I take it that they're offering this as a serving suggestion . . . and of course outboard DSP is then a requirement, so was there a Galileo box with it? And (sorry for the question barrage) did you get a chance to hear it with live sound, or just playback?
Is it actually a requirement or just a really, really good idea? Their rep says it works in native mode similarly to the LFC/line array combo.
Old 11th September 2019
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I have a very demanding Meyer devotee who recently picked up a pair of X40 who has yet to use them on a gig.
Curious his thoughts as UPA-1As on Chevin power is tough to beat in that size.
He also fears the lack of what he believes to be their sonic signature, and the digital processing within’s ability to maintain that signature.
Old 11th September 2019
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I think you are on exactly the right lines avoiding crappy "dash" arrays, and looking at capable single box solutions such as the TTL6a.

It's a mightily impressive box, both in quality and output. The coherent focused mid/high coaxial arrangement works really well, as long as the wide 90° horizontal coverage pattern isn't reflecting off any surface.

It's a pretty big box, but that combined with the 5° downward tilt of the vertical dispersion, makes it just right to stand alone on theatre-type stages. Then simply aim it appropriately, and depending on the shape of the room you can probably get away with just a single pair of tiny boxes for infill or outfill.

I'm not really familiar with your QSC boxes, though as I recall the 3-way is the model not cursed with their conical and broad HF horn. Hence you might not be used to deploying boxes with such wide horizontal coverage, which may or may not be an issue depending on the rooms involved.

There are other decent less expensive options from RCF and DB Tech. The NXL44 and IG4T are smaller 2-way designs, but both have hefty HF drivers and put out a lot for such skinny boxes - with similarly wide horizontal dispersion.
Thanks for the info

I've been spoiled by the 3 way KW 153 and after having 2 shows in a 2-way system (with sub) without dedicated mid woofer, I realized how much it counts. So I couldn't "upgrade" to a system without. Besides, I have played on NX24A, the little brother of NX44A and the sound was not that impressive. Nice, but that's it. So I guess, without listening, that NX44A would be kind of a side grade. Probably a bit better, but not worth the investments. TTL6A on the other side... Would definitely be. Especially the way the tweeter is only 5 degrees up. That helps with a lot of ceiling reflections.
Old 11th September 2019
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I heard them back in June.
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