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Old 11th June 2018
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mixing live set on stage

any suggestions for my following issue?

the setup:
I play on my own, with pre recorded percussion & drums, live synths, piano, guitar, and 1 multi purpose mic for flute, kalimba, small xylophone, steelpan etc..
I run everything through ableton live and a bunch of controllers to record loops and use fx.

for now I mainly support yoga classes, combined with meditative concerts... so it's chill out, quiet music.

I am using my headphones all the time for mixing. the track volumes change constantly, as do the effects.

I really want to get rid of the headphones, as I want to be more present in the room in stead of my little coccoon... so I am thinking about putting a monitor next to me (I don't have one).

I have the HK lucas nano 602 as front of house (awesome sound for the size!).

I would think the best thing to do is to put a lucas nano 302 as monitor. the sound is probably close to my foh. but it's a bit more than I want to spend.

what's your opinion?
suggestions for compact stereo monitor system?
maybe small nearfield studiomonitors?
or forgeting about it and staying with the headphones?
Old 14th June 2018
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You are thinking clearly in wanting to have your monitor speaker to be like the foh, as much as possible. The most common mistake made by mixing from behind your mains without a monitor is that you don’t hear any directional highs, so you tend to make the HF EQ creep up and up. It sounds better and better to you, but increasingly over-bright, screechy and eventually very unpleasant and strange to those in front of your mains.
Losing the phones, at least some of the time, will do what you want. Besides connecting you with the room and the crowd, working without headphones gives you a better feel for the volume and the sound in the room. If you are playing into a growing bunch of bodies, you will often need to brighten up the speakers compared to what you set up in the empty room or space. Listening in the air you will hear that, and you also won’t have to guess at how your EQ change sounds out front.
I have never heard (or heard of) your speakers, but you should try to get the money to pay for a same-brand matching speaker. It makes it much easier to have a good idea of what the audience is hearing, which is the point.

Last edited by Bushman; 14th June 2018 at 05:20 PM.. Reason: Spelling
Old 14th June 2018
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Yeah good idea. I do something similar minus the mic and got a set of dxr10s as monitors since i use 12s as mines. Having the same type of monitor system as mains probably work for ya. Best you can do when your performing and mixing!
Old 2nd August 2018
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thanks for your advice!

I went with the same brand, and it works good enough
happy I went for the expensive option!
Old 2nd August 2018
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I have mixed from the stage acoustic Americana, mostly Bluegrass, for more than 30 years. As a singing performer the most important factor in this process is duplicating, as close as possible, the sonic delivery to the venue seats. This requires a monitor speaker, usually a wedge, to replace the highs and mids, not present in the "bloom" behind FOH stacks, primarily by carefully setting a High pass filter.
As previously mentioned the specific characteristics of a given speaker system will dictate needed adjustments but it is very important to understand the difference between the sonic quality of sound in front of speaker stacks and the bloom that is clearly audible behind the same stacks. Proper utilization of wedge monitors to balance out the difference is the key to good stage monitoring. This protocol will not work if you are dealing with hot kits & back lines or a lot of "more me" musicians.
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