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Our new Rupert Neve Shelford Console
Old 1st November 2014
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Our new Rupert Neve Shelford Console

We've just finished installing our 40 channel(24 mono/8 stereo) Rupert Neve console.
It has 24x 5052 preamps/eqs and 2x 5012 preamps.
Sterling Modular furniture.

It's being used on it's first session this weekend.
I hope you like it! Here's some pics i took yesterday.
There's more pics from the installation on our FB-page
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Old 1st November 2014
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Awesome.
Old 1st November 2014
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Congratulations, it looks amazing. :drool:
Old 1st November 2014
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Marvellous console !
Splendid studio !

A really good choice
The Rupert Neve Design 5088 Limited Edition Shelford is my favorite analog console at the moment. Hard to beat...

It's worth a visit. It is not that far from Germany.

Congratulation !

R.
Old 1st November 2014
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https://www.facebook.com/OceanSoundR...type=1&theater

Oh wow - they make refrigerators too?

Looks great - congrats!
Old 1st November 2014
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awesome!!! I am so jealous!

onto the important stuff though, how much better does the food taste after going through the neve fridge?
Old 1st November 2014
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drool
Old 1st November 2014
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Amazing. I was looking at that exact configuration too. Do you think the meter bridge is kind of high? Are your nearfields at a comfortable height?
Old 1st November 2014
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Whoa!
Old 1st November 2014
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Impressive looking console
Old 1st November 2014
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wow beautiful!

record some drums for us!
Old 1st November 2014
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Amazing. I was looking at that exact configuration too. Do you think the meter bridge is kind of high? Are your nearfields at a comfortable height?
With Proacs the tweeters sits a little bit higher than on our old VR60. Perfect height for NS-10s though. I bet the new Barefoot MM45s would be nice there as well.
Old 1st November 2014
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https://www.facebook.com/OceanSoundR...type=1&theater

Oh wow - they make refrigerators too?

Looks great - congrats!
Discrete, Class A
Old 1st November 2014
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good choice on the fader panel color as well
Old 1st November 2014
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good choice on the fader panel color as well
Thanks! Yeah, we had the choice between regular RND-white and Shelford-blue for the faders. You can't really go wrong, but we went with the latter.
Old 1st November 2014
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wow beautiful!

record some drums for us!
Will do! It's doing sessions now, and in the days between I still have some details to sort out. The front of the console looks good, but there's some pretty excessive amounts of DB25-cables in the back which we need to shorten down a bit etc etc.

But yeah, would be really good to do a day of drum tracking and experiment a little bit. The 24 Shelford modules have their post fader direct out normalled to Pro Tools, so it's easy to drive the modules and channels a little bit when recording drums.
Old 1st November 2014
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Just beautiful!
Old 1st November 2014
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Are you normalling the DAW outputs to the 5052 Line Input or to the Console Channel Tape Input via the patch bay? Would you mind sharing some of your thoughts on the patchbay layout, there are a lot of patchbay routing options with this console that I am considering myself since your layout is virtually the same as the one I am thinking of.

How do you plan to monitor the DAW while tracking? Split style with returns on separate faders (stereo channels?), directly from the channels with the Sends, or just direct to the Stereo bus? Maybe its too soon to know what you prefer?

I see you didn't get the automation system, what is your feeling there? Console fader auto not important enough in the DAW era? Certainly less expensive for sure...

Thanks!

PS, I might need to come to Norway again just to see this beauty!
Old 1st November 2014
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Are you normalling the DAW outputs to the 5052 Line Input or to the Console Channel Tape Input via the patch bay? Would you mind sharing some of your thoughts on the patchbay layout, there are a lot of patchbay routing options with this console that I am considering myself since your layout is virtually the same as the one I am thinking of.

How do you plan to monitor the DAW while tracking? Split style with returns on separate faders (stereo channels?), directly from the channels with the Sends, or just direct to the Stereo bus? Maybe its too soon to know what you prefer?

I see you didn't get the automation system, what is your feeling there? Console fader auto not important enough in the DAW era? Certainly less expensive for sure...

Thanks!

PS, I might need to come to Norway again just to see this beauty!
Really appreciate your interest staudio.
You're more than welcome to come by and check it out in person!

Yeah, I've really had to go a few rounds thinking about the patchbay options.
One of the main reasons for us to go from a VR60 to the Shelford 5088 is that we have opened a second mixing room(mostly Pro Tools and outboard gear for now) which we offer as a more reasonable alternative to our main studio. Our main studio is pretty big with booths, bed rooms and lounge etc. So it's a great place to bring whole bands. When you're just a couple people mixing, it might be a bit overkill to rent the whole place. So no automation.

While the VR60 was pretty good for both mixing and tracking, I wanted the 5088 to be killer for tracking and set up to be as easy to understand for visiting engineers and producers as possible. So I ditched a few complicating patchbay routing options to make it faster to get a recording session going.

Almost everything comes up on the patch bay though, so you can patch around if the engineer have a specific workflow in mind.

-The tie lines from the rooms go to a xlr patch bay were you patch into the 5052s and outboard preamps.
-5052 Main Out half-normalled to the 5088 line input
-5088 Direct outs 1-24 -> Pro Tools In 1-24
-5088 Group outs 1-8 -> Pro Tools In 25-32

-Pro Tools Out 1-16 -> 5088 Stereo Channels(25-40) Line input(think stems)
-Pro Tools Out 17-28 -> Mytek Private Q headphone system 1-12(using sends in PT)
-Pro Tools 29-30 -> 5088 EXT. input

I guess we need would need more Pro Tools i/os to have all the Line inputs normalled as well as the Mytek. With DB25 patchbays i have the option to easily change my mind later.

One issue that made me pretty much leave the idea of normalling the Pro Tools outputs to the same 5088 channels that also has the the direct out normalled to the Pro Tools input, is that you can run into unintentional feedback. Long winded answer, but yeah, I guess it's set up as a split console.
Old 1st November 2014
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Gorgeous desk.

Much nicer looking than the white RND consoles I have seen in the past!

Congratulations!
Old 1st November 2014
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Thank you so much for this very detailed and helpful response. There are a lot of good points you raise about a tracking setup not needing automation and the feedback loop possibility as well. My setup would be more for mixing rather than tracking so I'm really interested in understanding the thought process of various 5088 installations. While there are many other console choices that lend greater features for mixing, the 5088 and Shelford modules have a sound that I feel is very desirable.
Thanks again for such a great and informative response.
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Really appreciate your interest staudio.
You're more than welcome to come by and check it out in person!

Yeah, I've really had to go a few rounds thinking about the patchbay options.
One of the main reasons for us to go from a VR60 to the Shelford 5088 is that we have opened a second mixing room(mostly Pro Tools and outboard gear for now) which we offer as a more reasonable alternative to our main studio. Our main studio is pretty big with booths, bed rooms and lounge etc. So it's a great place to bring whole bands. When you're just a couple people mixing, it might be a bit overkill to rent the whole place. So no automation.

While the VR60 was pretty good for both mixing and tracking, I wanted the 5088 to be killer for tracking and set up to be as easy to understand for visiting engineers and producers as possible. So I ditched a few complicating patchbay routing options to make it faster to get a recording session going.

Almost everything comes up on the patch bay though, so you can patch around if the engineer have a specific workflow in mind.

-The tie lines from the rooms go to a xlr patch bay were you patch into the 5052s and outboard preamps.
-5052 Main Out half-normalled to the 5088 line input
-5088 Direct outs 1-24 -> Pro Tools In 1-24
-5088 Group outs 1-8 -> Pro Tools In 25-32

-Pro Tools Out 1-16 -> 5088 Stereo Channels(25-40) Line input(think stems)
-Pro Tools Out 17-28 -> Mytek Private Q headphone system 1-12(using sends in PT)
-Pro Tools 29-30 -> 5088 EXT. input

I guess we need would need more Pro Tools i/os to have all the Line inputs normalled as well as the Mytek. With DB25 patchbays i have the option to easily change my mind later.

One issue that made me pretty much leave the idea of normalling the Pro Tools outputs to the same 5088 channels that also has the the direct out normalled to the Pro Tools input, is that you can run into unintentional feedback. Long winded answer, but yeah, I guess it's set up as a split console.
Old 2nd November 2014
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Can't wait to afford a session there
Old 2nd November 2014
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Schmokin! I'm seriously jelly.
Old 2nd November 2014
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Wow! What a beatiful device to place a pair of littlepapercones on...... ;-) Congatulations!
Old 3rd November 2014
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Sexy mofo console.....congratulations.
Old 3rd November 2014
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sweeeeeet...
Old 3rd November 2014
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I think the blue fader panel looks so much better than the white they showed at AES. This is beautiful!!!

Best,
Chris
Old 3rd November 2014
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Congratulations for being brave to opt for the best in sonic department!

5088 -> the best mixing path
Shelford -> EQ & comp modules to die for
5088 & Shelford...
Search is over.
Old 3rd November 2014
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wow
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Gear Porn... not to mention the 2 A 800!
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