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Analog or Digital EQ ? Equalisers (HW)
Old 14th December 2003
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Analog or Digital EQ ?

Does any of you got the chance to listen to a Massenburg 9500 EQ and a Massenburg plugin like the TC M6000 Massenburg EQ ?

What is better ?

Thanx 4 your Time
Old 14th December 2003
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Re: Analog or Digital EQ ?

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Originally posted by acidrulez
Does any of you got the chance to listen to a Massenburg 9500 EQ and a Massenburg plugin like the TC M6000 Massenburg EQ ?

What is better ?

Thanx 4 your Time
Yes.

If i had the choice i would choose the 9500.

But its not cheap.
Old 14th December 2003
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hmm but it is analog!

so i need one more AD /DA

Thanx
Old 14th December 2003
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If you have high quality converters, the DA/AD conversion is a non-issue.

A recording engineer I work with prefers digital eq for the low end, and analog eq for the high end. His mixes always sound great to me.
Old 14th December 2003
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It depends what for.
I prefer analog eq on the mix buss because everything else is digital and it gives you some kind of warmth and add some feeling the digital sound.
On individual tracks I prefer digital eq for the simple reason of ease of use and overall it’s harder to distinguish what eq you use on single tracks.
I say go analog for the mix buss and digital for the channels but thats just me.


mac
Old 15th December 2003
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Analog EQ vs a plug in? Do you have to ask?
Old 15th December 2003
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Re: Analog or Digital EQ ?

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Originally posted by acidrulez
Does any of you got the chance to listen to a Massenburg 9500 EQ and a Massenburg plugin like the TC M6000 Massenburg EQ ?

What is better ?

Thanx 4 your Time

I have two of them ... the software versions ... but I like em both.

Ever since GM and sony started making soft eq's I'm no longer ashamed to say that I eq digitally .... all the time.

(I wont sell my 9098's though fuuck )
Old 15th December 2003
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the massenburg in the 6000 rocks....add the Avalon/Manley or Millennia as well
Old 16th December 2003
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Originally posted by MIKEHARRIS
the massenburg in the 6000 rocks....
better than TDM massenburg eq?
Old 16th December 2003
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never realy tried to compare both (tdm vs 6000) ... maybe I should.

In my daily use the tdm is for individual tracks, the 6000 version is for house / reference mastering I do myself on my demo's.
Old 16th December 2003
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I thought that the renowned plugins (Waves etc.) sound very good and I used them a lot on master fader (Lin EQ etc.). Till the moment I got a pair of Millennia Origins ... Now I know that even the best plugins are rather a plastic flower comparing to the real fresh one
Old 18th December 2003
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One of the problems with analog outgear (esp EQ) is that you can't save settings, work on another project with the unit, and recall the old settings for the old song....

I have seen people take digital pictures of the unit's settings before closing the song. Not a bad idea...
Old 18th December 2003
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Aw c'mon.

I mean, we all love total recallability in the digital age but really...

Is a few recall sheets too much to ask for a wonderful piece of analog gear?

I didn't think so.

R.
Old 19th December 2003
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Acidrulez is so damn in the money! I made up a list of gear he owns by checking out his past threads:


GML 9500
GML 8900
Yamaha DM2000
TC M6000
Apogge AD8000
Eventide Orville
Lexicon 960L



ka-****ing-ching! agggh i'm jealous. grudge
Old 19th December 2003
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Yikes. someone has too much time....
Old 19th December 2003
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Originally posted by licendrivr
One of the problems with analog outgear (esp EQ) is that you can't save settings, work on another project with the unit, and recall the old settings for the old song....

I have seen people take digital pictures of the unit's settings before closing the song. Not a bad idea...
Not neccessarily true.

I own a Summit EQ-200.

http://www.summitaudio.com/main.htm

Its controlled by a PT plug in(Extension 78).

Not only does it sound excellent, but its totally functional(stores the EQ settings as part of the PT session)..
Old 26th October 2017
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....what do you guys think in 2017?
Old 27th October 2017
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One of the problems with analog outgear (esp EQ) is that you can't save settings, work on another project with the unit, and recall the old settings for the old song....

I have seen people take digital pictures of the unit's settings before closing the song. Not a bad idea...
And that good hardware EQ costs Decent Money! Still....?

Good grief....Seriously I used to take Poloroids of Outboard and SL4000 patching, and an iPhone or iPad is sheer luxury thus to automate everything and the difference sheesh to me it's huge!

It's easy for me to see just how the benefits of Analog Outboard give spacial plane Axis from Front/Back to Left/Right depth perception whilst plug ins are...certainly getting so much better, no voltage to me does equate to a flatness they impart.

Often this simply isn't relevant though often it is...user choice I guess! I can still remember one guy I knew whom swore by his Mackie DB8 and its Massenburg EQ plug in settings so...takes all kinds huh? Certainly EQ plug ins seem to be the most developed and precise though as to Tube or Trafo emulation I still find it hard, luckily Massenburg gear is straight wire clean, clarity and ultra precision etc.

TLB
Old 27th October 2017
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One of the problems with analog outgear (esp EQ) is that you can't save settings, work on another project with the unit, and recall the old settings for the old song....

I have seen people take digital pictures of the unit's settings before closing the song. Not a bad idea...
I´m using this Snapshot plug in. It´s a great idea. I just take a picture with my iPhone and save the picture in the computer for recalls.
https://non-lethal-applications.com/products/snapshot
Old 27th October 2017
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....what do you guys think in 2017?
i think it's a shame we haven't more analogue eq's with digital recall/control to choose from, some fifteen years after the summit eq mentioned. it truly is a great thing to have access to, when possible.
Old 29th October 2017
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....what do you guys think in 2017?
I've gone to a hybrid OTB system. 16x8x2 analog console with analog EQ/Comp on the 8 sub busses and master bus, but all individual channel EQ/Comp is done with plugins.
Old 29th October 2017
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...I have some cool analog units but I find the equal loudness bypass and auto gain matching of digital eq really amazing. Recall of analog is no big deal though. I just type my settings in the notes of logic.
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