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Mic Pres based on Trident A range Dual-Channel Preamps
Old 22nd November 2014
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hows about Ocean Audio ?
I have their 500 series pre 1 and EQ 1, and they are phenomenal sounding, and totally under the radar. They are built on the 80B / MTA design, and are a different animal, very gritty with lots of attitude, not at all like the A-Range. But Malcolm Toft has just released a Signature Series, which I plan on getting, and it looks like it might be A-Range based, but I don't know for sure.
Old 22nd November 2014
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I primarily do solo guitar in stereo, and if I had 2x channels of it I would of kept it, plus I thought the chance of finding another one would not be very easy, and I wasn't confident that if I did find one it would sound the same, since mine had just been rebuilt with NOS parts. Also, that kind of thing belongs in a pro studio getting constant use in recording albums, and not in a home studio, in my personal opinion.
I see, that makes sense. I was just curious.
Old 22nd November 2014
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I have their 500 series pre 1 and EQ 1, and they are phenomenal sounding, and totally under the radar. They are built on the 80B / MTA design, and are a different animal, very gritty with lots of attitude, not at all like the A-Range. But Malcolm Toft has just released a Signature Series, which I plan on getting, and it looks like it might be A-Range based, but I don't know for sure.
Cool thanks for the clarification .
Old 24th November 2014
  #34
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hows about Ocean Audio ?
Ocean Audio offers the Signature Three.
This is a dual-channel, fully discrete, 4-band inductive EQ.

The Signature Three is not based on the Trident A-Range, but there are some similarities.
The Trident A-Range only offers 2-bands of inductive EQ.
Hi and low bands are shelving.
The Ocean Audio Signature Three is a real four band inductive EQ.
As far as we know, the Signature Three is the only 4-band inductive EQ on the market (but please correct us if we are wrong).

If you like the A-Range or any of the reissues, then you'll most likely like the Signature Three a lot.
You may want to give it a try if you are looking for a silky smooth EQ.

Peace
Bruno
Ocean Audio

PS: Ocean Audio is founded by Malcolm Toft, the original designer of the A-Range
Old 24th November 2014
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Ocean Audio offers the Signature Three.
This is a dual-channel, fully discrete, 4-band inductive EQ.

The Signature Three is not based on the Trident A-Range, but there are some similarities.
The Trident A-Range only offers 2-bands of inductive EQ.
Hi and low bands are shelving.
The Ocean Audio Signature Three is a real four band inductive EQ.
As far as we know, the Signature Three is the only 4-band inductive EQ on the market (but please correct us if we are wrong).

If you like the A-Range or any of the reissues, then you'll most likely like the Signature Three a lot.
You may want to give it a try if you are looking for a silky smooth EQ.

Peace
Bruno
Ocean Audio

PS: Ocean Audio is founded by Malcolm Toft, the original designer of the A-Range
Thank you Bruno ! I have my eye on the 500 series Mic Pre One . I was wondering if the 1/4" goes through the input transformer , from reading the description it seems so but still wondering . Also how would you describe this pre for DI bass and guitar tracking ? Thanks again
Old 24th November 2014
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The Sowter 7456F has been confirmed very close sonically.
CH to RCH from Zutt.
Prodigy has a few repro builds for A-Range preamps and full channels.
Old 25th November 2014
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Thank you Bruno ! I have my eye on the 500 series Mic Pre One . I was wondering if the 1/4" goes through the input transformer , from reading the description it seems so but still wondering . Also how would you describe this pre for DI bass and guitar tracking ? Thanks again
The 1/4" does not go through the input transformer as the impedance is low because it is designed for a microphone. An instrument requires a much higher impedance so it has it's own high impedance amplifier designed to match pickups etc. So it is very good as an instrument input and is therefore ideal for a bass guitar as an example.

The 1/4" signal goes through the variable high pass filter which can be very useful and also through the output transformer which obviously adds some 'character'.

I hope this answers your question.

Peace
Bruno
Ocean Audio
Old 25th November 2014
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The 1/4" does not go through the input transformer as the impedance is low because it is designed for a microphone. An instrument requires a much higher impedance so it has it's own high impedance amplifier designed to match pickups etc. So it is very good as an instrument input and is therefore ideal for a bass guitar as an example.

The 1/4" signal goes through the variable high pass filter which can be very useful and also through the output transformer which obviously adds some 'character'.

I hope this answers your question.

Peace
Bruno
Ocean Audio
Excellent ! Thank you Sir ! And thank you for that email with the great first hand knowledge of tracking with this and of your bassists it was very helpful and was just what I wanted to hear before pulling the trigger this morning should arrive next week sometime and will complete my lunchbox Cheers , Scott
Old 13th December 2014
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look what just arrived from Alto



did quick test and I love it , it's very strong and clear but with a grit to it that is simply killer ,
especially on a rock bass sound I got instant Geddy right out of the box . I'll be using this a lot !
Old 21st December 2014
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I really like the trident pres a lot I've also used the p-1 by a designs really cool sound it would depend on what your using it for for it to sound like the trident but they sound great
I put the Gtr direct and I did not see much of difference but when I used a vocal mic it really showed its character I guess that's what I mean about what you put thru the device
Old 20th March 2019
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I'm stumbling on this thread like 5 years later but for the sake of the passerby, Advanced Audio has since built the MT8016, which is basically a modified Trident preamp, and... it is BAD A$$.
Old 20th March 2019
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I'm stumbling on this thread like 5 years later but for the sake of the passerby, Advanced Audio has since built the MT8016, which is basically a modified Trident preamp, and... it is BAD A$$.
That doesn't surprise me. Malcolm Toft was involved I believe.
Old 21st March 2019
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That AA MT8016 preamp is a Trident 80 series design, which really has nothing in common with the A-Range.
Old 22nd March 2019
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Trident A range and Trident 80 preamps really do sound VERY different from one another. Fundamentally very different designs.
Old 22nd March 2019
  #45
I have a series 80 in now. The mic preamp is very similar to the Flexmix. It's two series-connected inverting 071 opamp stages. By design the loading on the transformer secondary will vary with the gain settings. That creates a variable transient response with overshoot at lower gains and undershoot at higher gains.

That is corrected here by changing the first opamp stage to a non-inverting design with a fixed load on the transformer secondary. Then proper loading/capacitor tuning can be used to optimize the transient response. It also lowers the noise floor by several db's.
Old 22nd March 2019
  #46
Oram always takes credit for the 80 series. Malcolm was apparently more involved in the A Range. Who knows what though with Trident history.
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