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How Many People Are Mixing To 1"?
Old 5th June 2002
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How Many People Are Mixing To 1"?

There's a little blurb in Mixonline that the ATR 1" is gaining popularity in LA. Any other takers?
Old 6th June 2002
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Hi Darian

If I'm not mistaken there are now two here in Nashville.
Old 6th June 2002
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jon
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Haven't heard of any installed in Europe yet...
Old 6th June 2002
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jon, what are you doing up at 3 in the morning?sleep
Old 6th June 2002
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yea .... what he says ..... smokin smokin smokin
Old 6th June 2002
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Actually, Michael, it's almost 4 am now...Hi, Chris!

Returned from mixing at 3...am chilling out by checking out the forums while listening to the radio.

This is often about the hour when Jules calls on the mobile phone cuz he knows I'm no longer in session and not in bed yet either.

Mix session tomorrow at 11 am...doing a metal single for the soundtrack to "The Joker", a new film francais.

signing off now zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Old 10th June 2002
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I'm still curious on hearing about the sonic impact of mixing down to 1". I'm working on an album right now, and I'm dying to hear of other experiences with the format.
Old 9th July 2006
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Any fresh opinion on subject ?
Old 10th July 2006
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i've mixed to 1 inch many times. you don't have to hit it as hard as you would typically print to 1/2 inch. great for most everything... phaaaat sound.
Old 10th July 2006
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i've heard a few mastering guys yell about 1" mixdown reels because from what i understand, not many mastering houses have 1" decks available (at least as of right now), but at the same time they supposedly sound as good as anything else if not way better.
Old 10th July 2006
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i had my contribution to a record completely RUINED because the mastering moron obviously didn't know what he was doing... so all my four tracks sound about 3 db quieter than the rest of the record, and everyone else's digital tracks sound super bright in comparison. it was done in england and the mastering was out of my control. NOT happy about it.
Old 10th July 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jon
Haven't heard of any installed in Europe yet...
gold chamber mastering in austria has one
Old 10th July 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seaneldon
i've heard a few mastering guys yell about 1" mixdown reels because from what i understand, not many mastering houses have 1" decks available (at least as of right now), but at the same time they supposedly sound as good as anything else if not way better.

Dreamhire
Old 10th July 2006
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I've heard mixed reviews about 1".

Of course I'm still a huge fan of good ol' 1/4" 15 ips.
Old 10th July 2006
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Paul Stubblebine Mastering in San Francisco has an EAR/Tim DeParavicini ATR-102 modded to 1", and I'd agree with Greg, the cool thing is not having to pump level into it to the point of saturation -- you can run lower with ample dynamic headroom, and have a "clean tape" experience... which is interesting, if not jaw-dropping.

-dave
Old 10th July 2006
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even at 30 ips those decks are noisy
I can't imagine someone mixing to them
Old 10th July 2006
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even at 30 ips those decks are noisy
I can't imagine someone mixing to them
and now back to planet earth....
Old 10th July 2006
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I am a big fan of and have been using ATR's 1" machines for years at Hit, both in the studios and the mastering suites. Was so impressed with the results and engineers comments we got one for the studio here in Vegas.

Also, I got a test tape of ATRs Master Tape. Michael is close to a full production release and I am pleased to be testing some tape for him. My results will be fwd to him and he will take all the comments about this production and hopefully we will see ATR tape on people shelves soon.

Oh, and btw, yes, the rumors are true, the specs say it goes to 11. (+11/185nWb/m). I'll know more when I run my tests tape for them and you guys will know more when a press release comes out from Michael
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Old 11th July 2006
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Worked on a project recently that was mixed to 1" tape. Sounded wonderful. No noise issues. The ME (Calbi) spent most of his time tweaking the deck playback to get the exact sound he wanted out of it and that was pretty much it. Ironically, it was the same deck that was used to record the mix (Dreamhire NY's rented 1" ATR). The only mastering place I know of here in NY that has one of these is the Lodge. Anyone know of any other Mastering houses in NYC with one of these?
Old 11th July 2006
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Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson

Of course I'm still a huge fan of good ol' 1/4" 15 ips.


Old 11th July 2006
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Anyone know of any other Mastering houses in NYC with one of these?
Scott Hull has his own and I don't think he's gotten rid of it. Not sure where his place is now, maybe 23rd st or something.

just checked online and got this stuff:
Scott Hull Mastering
321 West 44th Street
Suite 402
New York, NY 10036
Directions

212-957-2450
http://www.scotthullmastering.com
Old 11th July 2006
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Despite my pro 1/4" comment, I should probably make it clear we do handle 1" at Georgetown Masters.
Old 11th July 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by allencollins
even at 30 ips those decks are noisy
I can't imagine someone mixing to them
Yea, but that distorted guitar just sounds better when it's noisy.

bcgood
Old 11th July 2006
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even at 30 ips those decks are noisy
I can't imagine someone mixing to them

Funny stuff..
Old 11th July 2006
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Bob and others, which tape machine would you suggest for mixing as the best choice (if tape width/price no concern) ?
Old 21st July 2006
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If I wanted a "tape" sound, 15 ips. 1/4 is great. For a "hi fi" sound I like really high-end digital. If that isn't available, I'd probably go for 1/2". First choice in machines is modified Studers followed by ATRs.
Old 21st July 2006
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Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson
If I wanted a "tape" sound, 15 ips. 1/4 is great. For a "hi fi" sound I like really high-end digital. If that isn't available, I'd probably go for 1/2". First choice in machines is modified Studers followed by ATRs.
Great
Old 23rd July 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson
If I wanted a "tape" sound, 15 ips. 1/4 is great. For a "hi fi" sound I like really high-end digital. If that isn't available, I'd probably go for 1/2". First choice in machines is modified Studers followed by ATRs.
Yea totally, that's why most digitally recorded material these days on Pro Tools HD rigs sound so much better than the stuff recorded in the 70's, for instance. Plus recording to tape takes so much time and discipline, I want it now!

bcgood
Old 24th July 2006
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Pro Tools HD ain't high end digital!
Old 24th July 2006
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Yea totally, that's why most digitally recorded material these days on Pro Tools HD rigs sound so much better than the stuff recorded in the 70's, for instance. Plus recording to tape takes so much time and discipline, I want it now!

This is said sarcastically right?
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