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Outboard delay Hall of Fame... Reverb/Delay Processors (HW)
Old 9th September 2002
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Outboard delay Hall of Fame...

What is the best dedicated outboard delay of them all...both modern and vintage?

PCM42?

SDE3000?

tape echo?

TC 2290?

Something else?

Something new?
Old 9th September 2002
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Jon......tut tut tut ...

But WHERE is teh AMS DMX delay with harmoniser option...

I mean where would 'The Smith's ' "How Soon Is Now" be without it?.... Its an 80 staple fro me liek AMS-RMX16......

Beware and be warned... the 'ides of march are coming back!'.... the 80's are coming back so b4 we know it we will be patching reverbs and delays back to back and we'll be having more reverb sends than actual audio input channels, we'll be applying criminal quantities if hair products too.....

you ahve been warned!... lol.. hehehehehe

Rock on in an 80's fashion...

PEACE
Wiggy
Old 9th September 2002
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Best for what? Best bang for the buck and most versatile right now is probably the Line 6 rack thing. All of the ones you mentioned are cool. I get a lot of use from my Korg SDD-2000 which I got for $75.
Old 9th September 2002
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TC2290 is the one for me.

I love the sound of that box at any input signal level. rollz

Delta Modulation over Post Code Modulation any day!! grggt
Old 9th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jay Kahrs
Best for what? Best bang for the buck and most versatile right now is probably the Line 6 rack thing. All of the ones you mentioned are cool. I get a lot of use from my Korg SDD-2000 which I got for $75.
Jay,

The SDD2000 was the sampling version, right?
I had a bunch of them. I used them as a cheap sampler, triggering drums samples live in the early days. I would sample the toms & snare during sound check and use the samples during the show. It wasn't perfect but it worked as a quick fix if necessary.

I also had the SDD3000. They didn't have a lot of top end but they had there place at one time. Nothing EQ couldn't fix. heh
Old 9th September 2002
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still like the old Lexicon 95 "Prime Time II" for simple delay or basic flanging stuff. The Yamaha D 5000 is a great delay too, wish I could find one.
Old 9th September 2002
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moogerfooger analog delay

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Old 9th September 2002
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I'm really liking this TC Electronic D-two I got a few months ago. It has a lot of the cool stuff I always loved about the 2290, like dynamic threshold delay, etc. But it also has the ability to have the delay pattern tapped into it, something I would have given anything for back in the 80's. Speaking of the 80's, I sure would love to find a Delta Labs Effectron, the one where you could have infinite hold on and still turn the time knob.
Old 9th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by mwagener
still like the old Lexicon 95 "Prime Time II" for simple delay or basic flanging stuff.
That was my pick. Actually I have the model 93. Funky colored knobs and sliders.
Old 9th September 2002
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I am **** at using delays. I have a Roland Space Echo 555E that I havent used since I bought it (needs a new tape)

I belong in Delay Jail

The analog tapedelay plug ins for PT are very good.

Old 9th September 2002
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Originally posted by drundall


That was my pick. Actually I have the model 93. Funky colored knobs and sliders.
still got one of those 93s, it's not working, do you want it for parts?
Old 9th September 2002
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TC 2290 for me as well. Occasionally I'll use a TC Fireworx, but only if the 2290 is already in use.
Old 10th September 2002
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These are what I consider to be the delay Hall of Fame:

1) Lexicon PCM42-Still going strong!!! Works great on everything. Sounds great with analog tape or DAW tracks doen't matter.

1a)PCM41- The older brother of the 42. While not as sexy, it still gets the job done.


2)TC2290- Everything you need right on the front. Only two drawbacks 1) Doesn't sound great on everything 2)It was never true stereo. Other than that a true classic.

3)The AMS 1580- Somone covered it earlier.

4)Roland SDE3000- Small with no vents(so it overheats), but sounds great. The display was lame, but hey it was the 80's.

5)Lexicon Super Prime Time- Super delay!!!

6)Yamaha D5000-A secret weapon, versatile with all kinds of funky patches. Bob Clearmountains favorite.

7)Sony D7-Special effects and cool delays.

8)Any delay by Delta Labs.

9)One of my secret weapons- the Symetrix 606, the closest thing to a PCM42. Lousy display(basically none). But sounds as close to the real thing(I just run it through a pair of SPX90's in bypass) and I get that natural 80's digital roll off.

10)There are so many pedals, spring reverbs, and tape echo machines to name.
Old 10th September 2002
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Blue MXR rack digital delay. Only the blue ones! Grainy, smooth modulation... My fave, by far.

Lexicon Vortex after that, although it's a crapshoot whether it will work, but the tap and morph functions are tre cool.

The cheaper the better in delays for me!
Old 10th September 2002
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Nearly impossible to answer because it totally depends on application, so let my break my options down:

PCM 42 : Simple assed mono delay. Great to put on the left side of a "strings" bus (with zero feedback) with a couple ms delay to add width.

Moogerfooger Analog Delay : SLY AND ROBBIE 2000 dub bay-bay!!! Anyone ever notice the plug in version of this is NOT accurate when you put a delay time in? This is more of an instrument to me than a delay, LOVE IT.

AMS RMX : Dude, come on. I love it when "daw engineers" ask me what these units to. The con of using these is I hit a streak of bad luck where 5 units (in different studios) crapped out on me. Times like that, you ask yourself if it was something YOU did.

2290 : My staple. Preset 80, 0 direct signal, usually a quarter note delay, Feedback 20 or so. Sometimes I feed this to itself. (Bob Brown is a MASTER at this) I flip the left side out of phase a lot (because of the programs). The "learn" function is used even if the unit isn't. These are also CHEAPER than 42's and do more now-a-days.

Roland Space Echo : This is another unit that is more musical to me. I feel like I'm playing it. Cons are that they are hard to find.

Echoplex : Man. Eddie Van Halen? Dead Kennedys? come on now. I love using this unit for a rip off of "the edge" (u2) guitar sound. The TUBE versions of this are the way to go. Every unit sounds different depending on the tape, but you'll know it's an echoplex when you hear it.

Roland SDE3000 : Simple. Does the trick. Sometimes I send this to an autopanner (fast auto pan) with a little HPF and LPF on it.

MRX Blue : Make sure it's the blue. Great results on guitar, or bass should you ever desire delay on your bass.

TC D-TWO : Radically new delay. This is still considered an "unknown" to most engineers I talk to. Man, the Multi tap pattern function is on some next level. You can make it delay actual rhythms, not just set divisions. This allows you to ponder new ways of using a delay. The Ping Pong delay is also great.

Lexicon 95 Prime Time II : Reminds me of the 80's too much in a bad way. It's kinda cool for flanging, but I usually prefer other flangers than just a delay that shifts.

TC1210 Spatial Expander : I love this as an effects send from my background chain.

Yamaha D5000 : I didn't get much time with this unit, but most people I talked to used this as a reverb. (?) I never understood this. Anyway, the "freeze" function is pretty dammed cool at anyrate. There's also some timecode dealeydally I never understood. Dammit. Now I'm gonna have to rent one.

Boss DM-2 Analog Delay : Classic. Simple. Non-clean. Love it on guitar.

Cellphone Delay : Yeah, this pisses me off too. I usually just hang up.
Old 10th September 2002
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I can see why. it works great for this purpose. Just like the SDE 330 delay another great delay. I use them both in a multi efx chain for ambience.


[Yamaha D5000 : I didn't get much time with this unit, but most people I talked to used this as a reverb. (?) I never understood this. Anyway, the "freeze" function is pretty dammed cool at anyrate. There's also some timecode dealeydally I never understood. Dammit. Now I'm gonna have to rent one.
Old 11th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Remoteness
Jay,

The SDD2000 was the sampling version, right?
Yup. I still can't figure out how to make that work. Not like I'd use it that often though. I just saw another one for $79 and I was tempted to grab it. Funny how no one has mentioned the Line 6 rack delay yet. I thought it would be pretty popular.
Old 11th September 2002
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My very first outboard was a Roland RE-150 Space Echo in 1979 that I still have and use.

The other old time favorites is the Yamaha D1500, Roland SDE-3000 and the Delatalab 1024.

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Old 11th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jay Kahrs

Funny how no one has mentioned the Line 6 rack delay yet. I thought it would be pretty popular.
I'm gonna wait until I try it out. Should be here by next week.
Old 11th September 2002
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Old 17th September 2002
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A few that haven't been mentioned:

Publison DHM 89 B2 - amazing delay/pitch shifter. A knob/button/switch per function, 3 digit display per channel, great sound. I could go on about this unit, ... but I won't

Bel BD-80 - simple 2 second delay (options up to 8 seconds) with a great interface and cv input for delay time control. Very musical sounding delay. (also check out the others in the family - BD-240, 320 and BDE-2400,3200)

Yamaha E-1010 - another great sounding, easy to use delay

Other favorites that have been mentioned:

AMS DMX-1580 (I prefer the mono version with the added filter controls)

tc 2290

Effectron II (best under $100 delay made)

Lexicon PCM-41 - I refuse to spend current $$$$ for a -42

Tape echos of all kinds (Rolands, Echoplexi, Klemt Echolettes, Korg Stage Echo)
Old 18th September 2002
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Ampex model 300, 350 or 351 tape machine run at 15 with the eq. set for 7.5.

You will recognize the characteristic sound of this instantly!
Old 18th September 2002
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we have the yamaha d5000. very nice box
Old 18th September 2002
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SDE-3000. Well, that is what I own so of course it goes to the hall of fame. Love using it in the winter, it doubles as a space heater.

I also have the SRV-2000 which turns into a delay if you boot it up holding down a few buttons.
Old 16th May 2003
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electro harmonix stereo memoryman. love that hissing sound. the edge make a career out of it.

-d. gauss
Old 16th May 2003
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Old 16th May 2003
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Korg SDD-3000: ... I'm telling you, at ostensibly the same settings as other delays, it just has some nice mojo that sets it apart.

UREI/Cooper Time Cube: What could be better than a coil of garden hose with a speaker at one end and a mic at the other?

-dave
Old 16th May 2003
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There have been so many great delays over the years, as to a personal favorite its got to be the AMS just for that "bell" like quality, I never get tired of that sound.

Regards


Roland
Old 16th May 2003
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SDE-3000.....sob.....2 of em ....sob....sold em....shoulda never

Had that old Yamerhammer the 1010...pure as trash...80's

still have 2 sde1000's...one of em is chained to the SPX90 thru a commonlaw marriage.....

PCM42...in one ear and out out out out the the the the other other other other.............


my old grey tube echoplex

wem echorec...lovely english ****** guitar sound
Old 16th May 2003
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the front panel of tc2290 looks like a true classic, and i enjoy pressing the buttons, especially the tap tempo.

i'll also vote for electroharmonix deluxe memoryman.

anyone know of this stompbox delay by korg toneworks 201dl, well built, quiet, even has pre-delay. my favourite money for quality delay.
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