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Originally Posted by Roland
That would be ok, except I know guys that will do it for less than that, try free! That's in a nutshell has been one of the biggest problems of this industry. Here in the UK every university/college run media/music technology courses, its easy to find students because they "want to be in the music bussiness/don't care if it only pays the same as flipping burgers at McDonalds as there is more to life than money".
Hey kid, I'm 42 years old, slogged my guts out in this industry for 27 years, have a wife and a mortgage, I need to make quite a lot more than McDonalds pays or my wife will make my life a living hell. You see she's got it into her head that not having the bank repossesing the house, food on the table, the occasional family holiday, kids and a decent family car are necessities. I love music just about as much as anyone I know, but I still like to get laid too, IM not so HO it beats hanging with a bunch of sweaty muso's of a night so I figure that I will charge sensible rates, do some of the boring stuff that I can get paid for.
My only point is that for $15k you aren't going to get much kit, not really enought to get paid to do stuff with, and taking that amount out on a loan, you better get a job at McDonalds because you will need it to make the repayments. To put some perspective on it, I've spent a lot more than $15k on a single piece of pro software. All joking aside I would (if you are truly serious) go work with someone else, helping out, making tea, humping the gear for a band/pa company, this way you have the chance to meet talented people whom you can learn off. Hey if you are any good you might actually make some money doing this.
Regards to all
Roland

i understand how you feel. but your comment "I need to make quite a lot more than McDonalds pays...I figure that I will charge sensible rates" along with your point that "for $15k you aren't going to get much kit, not really enought to get paid to do stuff with" sort of cancel each other out. we're clearly in 2 different boats.
i never said i don't WANT to be paid properly, and that one day when/if i work myself up to the position of having a good reputation and a bigger studio with more gear i won't expect it. my comment was more about passion, and how the state of the industry isn't going to stop me trying to get into the position i just mentioned. by the way i've been paid to work with alot less than i have now. i've also been paid to work in an amazing studio with a brilliant award winning producer/engineer, and great equipment which is now informing my purchasing decisions. that job DID pay less than a mcdonalds worker. that's because the industry (in my neck of the woods anyway) has, as you say, problems.
oh, and i'm typing this from my current day job, which isn't audio related, but isn't mcdonalds either. i plan on keeping this day job until my weekend and evenings are so busy in the studio i can move to part time work and spend the rest of the time recording, and then finally drop it all together (if that actually happens, of course).
Jazzy Alz and Seamus - you're both right! i'll probably skip the eq right now. of course as a gearslut it doesn't matter how much i have, i'll always want much, much more...