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Good all purpose mic LDC
Old 16th June 2012
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Good all purpose mic LDC

Looking for a good all arounder Large Condenser Mic.
For vocals, acoustic guitar, room mic, amplifiers but not loud ones.
Thinking of a flea 47, josephson 716, bock 241,
Any suggestions?
Have a BAE 1073 mic pre,
Old 16th June 2012
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U87
Old 16th June 2012
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If your good with electronics you could build yourself a stereo pair of vinatge u87's for less than 1 new ai?

http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=47350.0

Just a thought.
Old 16th June 2012
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Looking for a good all arounder Large Condenser Mic.
For vocals, acoustic guitar, room mic, amplifiers but not loud ones.
Thinking of a flea 47, josephson 716, bock 241,
Any suggestions?
Have a BAE 1073 mic pre,
The Josephson C716, is downright incredible and one of the finest solid state condensers I have ever witnessed. I have had amazing results with this mic in my studio. If you or anyone is curious to speak personally about it, I would be happy to consult with you. Its a pretty interesting design, considering the other mammoth's of pliability that Josephson builds. I have also had great experiences with the Bock microphones, and think they are excellent offerings, with an exceptional sound quality, so you cannot go wrong with the 241, by any stretch!!
Old 16th June 2012
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Agreed with what Adam said about Josephson (even if I personally prefer the 715)..
Flea is no slouch and VERY well built also..
The U87 is not on par with these IMO, BUT it's very versatile..hence it could be a good contender.. it's pretty good (at least decent) on just about anything..

Btw IMHO the best thing is to have at least 2 or 3 mics to choose from, that's the real "versatility".. Especially vocals, a mic works great another just so-so.. and it's not forcely a matter of price.. it's source dependent..
Try them out in your place and then decide.. even if it will probably be hard to send the other contender back

Some contenders might be:
- Flea (48 maybe? added polar pattern might help)
- Josephson 715 (or 716, which is a different beast, also very nice)
- Maybe a ribbon like the AEA 44
- Brauner Phantera
- Violet Design The Globe Vintage (you could read my review in the reviews section, link is below my avatar) beside being rather "cheap", at least compared to the others mentioned here, it's an absolute "have to" IMHO..seriously it's that good..and, always IMO, sounds good on a lot of sources..

Probably with a Josephson, a Flea and a 44 you get most if not all your bases covered, which is remarkable with 3 mics, but they don't come cheap..

If it's for your vocals, try them all and pick the one that fits better your vocals and goals..
The preamp that you have is a great piece.. good choice!

I hope this helps you somehow..



Cheu
Old 16th June 2012
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I still think a Gefell M70/71 is hard to beat...
Old 16th June 2012
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When I hear a word "versatile", the first thing that comes to my mind is C414 B-ULS.
It works great on guitars, drums (OH and close), as a room mic, on strings...
It works very nice on some vocals but it isn't the best for some.
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another vote for the Gefell M70 series. C414 are also good if you got a good variation (no xl-II and the old P48 type has also a bad reputation)
Old 17th June 2012
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With the bae 1073 the rca44 could be interesting. However an LDC is probably more versatile. I prefer a 414eb before the uls.
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Shure KSM44 I like more than a U87.
Old 17th June 2012
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after reading another post which is similar to mine,
I wonder how the Josephson e22s would be?
it is considered a large diaphram mic I understand.
Old 17th June 2012
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another vote for the Gefell M70 series. C414 are also good if you got a good variation (no xl-II and the old P48 type has also a bad reputation)
Or the new UMT70S that replaced the UM70.
Old 17th June 2012
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Shure KSM44 I like more than a U87.
Yup, I love the KSM44, but the 87 is a different animal. For all around stuff I may agree with you on this choice.

HOWEVER<

What about the U89? I use mine as an all rounder and it does sound great on many things.
Old 17th June 2012
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after reading another post which is similar to mine,
I wonder how the Josephson e22s would be?
it is considered a large diaphram mic I understand.
it is a small diaphragm, but what is true, is that it sounds BIG, for a small capsuled mic!
Old 17th June 2012
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A pair of 414s is always good to have around any studio.

You can spend lots more money if you want.

I'm damn happy with my GT-67 tube MP LDCs.

And they cost even LESS - if you can find them.

Groove Tubes GT67 | Sweetwater.com

Here's one on e-bay - the Alesis AM62 is the same mic, with some minor cosmetic differences.
For $300 bucks it's WORTH a try! I'd buy another one, but I already have two.
I've shot this mic out against a lot of great and much more expensive mics - through my Buzz Audio ARC - and it always kicks ass!
Good all purpose mic LDChttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Groove-Tubes...#ht_500wt_1156

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Old 18th June 2012
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Nevaton MC51, very nice LDC with discreet transformerless curcuit, multi-pattern.
My favourite mic under $1200. Great for vocals and acoustic guitar and many other sources.


More exclusive and also highly recommended from those who already know it:

The tube and solid-state boutique microphones from german manufacturer DS-Audioservice:

www.ds-audioservice.de
Old 18th June 2012
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Shure KSM44 I like more than a U87.
Old 18th June 2012
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I like both. I find that the U87 adds a distinctive (and most often desirable) "mid forwardness" to most sources, and the 44 is a bit more natural sounding. It depends on the vibe you're going for, and what you are willing to pay. If I could only keep one, it would be the 87.
Old 19th June 2012
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I agree with the KSM44. Great all around mic. Also, the Miktek CV4.
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