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Old 11th December 2007
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producer: massenburg

tracking: albini

mixing: al schmitt
Old 11th December 2007
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Interest to see so many "Trevor Horns"...
As far as I know he is musical producer (the best IMHO) and composer.
I was pretty positive he does not engineer any of the albums he produces.
Am I wrong?
Old 11th December 2007
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Interest to see so many "Trevor Horns"...
As far as I know he is musical producer (the best IMHO) and composer.
I was pretty positive he does not engineer any of the albums he produces.
Am I wrong?
His production is very, very hands on. He might as well be engineering when he's in the control room.
Old 11th December 2007
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Old 11th December 2007
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His production is very, very hands on. He might as well be engineering when he's in the control room.
Trevor is essential in every production he steps in.
I know he is ultra participative and super perfectionist about performance direction, arrangement concept, composition structure and even tone.
But after read dozens of interviews with himself and the engineers and artists who worked with/for him. I was very convinced he was not the one who chooses signal chains, position mics or turning knobs at a mix session.

A little example, is how the engineer Steve Macmillan describes, when asked how was to mix in Mr. Horn´s productions, in a recent interview:
Trevor's input would have been more on the level of "We need something to happen here", and "Try something different, I don't like what going on in this section".
Old 11th December 2007
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Wait, wait, wait.

Steve Albini doesn't produce, and if you've got Albini, why do you need AJ for drums? (I mean, if you don't like Albini for his drums, why do you like him?)

Having said that, two good choices.

Superburtm: AJ is affordable?! -E
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Old 11th December 2007
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For me I'd love to make a record with Jack Douglas
Old 11th December 2007
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Steve Evetts.
Old 12th December 2007
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producer: massenburg

tracking: albini

mixing: al schmitt
Good luck getting Massenburg to produce a record that Albini is tracking, or getting Albini to track a record Massenburg is producing.
Old 12th December 2007
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Engineer: Mr. Spock (only he could mind meld with my recalcitrant MCI 2")
Producer: Yoda (for overall vision and great ears)
Master: Satan (it's a black art!)
Old 12th December 2007
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Interest to see so many "Trevor Horns"...
As far as I know he is musical producer (the best IMHO) and composer.
I was pretty positive he does not engineer any of the albums he produces.
Am I wrong?
I don't know much about him but his records sonically speaking are better than everyone elses. I realize 90% of the music he produces is production friendly. I mean take a guy like Rick Ruben, all the music he produces is basically garage rock. Sonically he has to walk a fine line. It can't sound good since many of his artists are edgy and a too polished record would 'be selling out'. Same with many of the great producers i nthe 90's. The records were all about being edgy and natural.

The stuff horn delivers is all about sounding huge, larger than life and pristine. While I still think no other producer will ever compare to the quality of his work sonically speaking, he does have the advantage of working on projects that are meant to be 'produced' or over produced if that make you happy.

Again I know nothing about him except his recordings but I would say I bet the engineers on his records are just robots. I bet He's guiding them every step of the way.

Video killed the radio star?
Old 12th December 2007
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1/4 of the record with Bill Bottrell, the other 1/4 with Andy Wallace, the other 1/4 with Mutt Lange and Mike Shipley, and the last quarter with Trevor Horn and Bob Clearmountain. Bonus track with Tchad Blake and Mitchell Froom. And, I would take alot of notes

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Old 12th December 2007
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Producer - "Myo" Myrone Z. McCarty at Speaker Rm. (Studio A)
Tracking - Jack Joseph Puig at Ocean Way (Studio A)
Mixing - Dr. Dre at Strongroom (Strongroom 3)
Mastering - Bernie Grundman at Bernie Grundman Mastering
Assistant - Ryan Hewitt
Old 12th December 2007
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I agree with you, Trevor Horn is a master in build a working team. He is in a level that he can have the finest professionals the world can offer at his disposal. So his environment is very production friendly? No doubt... and that´s what their clients and audience wants from him. Bingo.
I have no doubt he have decisive decisions on recording tone and mix. The fact he is not directly involved with technical recording nerd stuff does not compromise him as a producer. He knows the sound he wants in his mind and he knows how to pick a engineer who can deliver this sound. Ppl always says he is a master at pushing people to it´s limits. The same seems correct with musicians and arrangers he works with. Always sounds like the best guy for the job.
Curiously, my favorite producers are not the ones who used to be engineers, but actually former musicians like Trevor Horn and Mitchell Froom (who makes a nice duo with engineer Tchad Blake by the way).




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I don't know much about him but his records sonically speaking are better than everyone elses. I realize 90% of the music he produces is production friendly. I mean take a guy like Rick Ruben, all the music he produces is basically garage rock. Sonically he has to walk a fine line. It can't sound good since many of his artists are edgy and a too polished record would 'be selling out'. Same with many of the great producers i nthe 90's. The records were all about being edgy and natural.

The stuff horn delivers is all about sounding huge, larger than life and pristine. While I still think no other producer will ever compare to the quality of his work sonically speaking, he does have the advantage of working on projects that are meant to be 'produced' or over produced if that make you happy.

Again I know nothing about him except his recordings but I would say I bet the engineers on his records are just robots. I bet He's guiding them every step of the way.

Video killed the radio star?
Old 12th December 2007
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Good luck getting Massenburg to produce a record that Albini is tracking, or getting Albini to track a record Massenburg is producing.
Have they got issues? I think Albini has Massenburg gear in his rack ... -E
Old 13th December 2007
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Depending on the sound:

Tracking: Brian Carlstrom, Joey Moi.

Mixing: Rany Staub or Chris Lord Alge.

Producer: Don Gilmore, Joey Moi, or David Ben
Old 13th December 2007
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Slipperman... start to finish.

He owes me money.
Old 13th December 2007
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Joe Porto
Old 13th December 2007
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Slipperman... start to finish.

He owes me money.
At my current day rate we get to spend the next 2-3 decades together.

HOHOHO.

Ahh me.

Why am I laughing?


SM.

PS. Sorry about the hijack.
Old 14th December 2007
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I I mean take a guy like Rick Ruben, all the music he produces is basically garage rock. Sonically he has to walk a fine line. It can't sound good since many of his artists are edgy and a too polished record would 'be selling out'.
Yep, I have always considered Justin Timberlake, The Dixie Chicks, Johny Cash, LL Cool J and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan basically garage rock.
Old 14th December 2007
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right now Mark Needham
Old 14th December 2007
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Me.
Old 14th December 2007
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Just at his exact moment I would love to have Tom Doty engineer a record with me. Subject to change moment to moment.
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Old 14th December 2007
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If you could have any engineer track and mix your album, Who?

John Paterno - For Rock or Pop Album
CLA - For a Rock album
TLA - For a Rock Album
Bob Clearmountain - For a Pop album
Mike Shipley - For a Country, Rock or Pop Album
Tchad Blake - For a project with personality
Gustavo Borner - For a Latin Pop Project
Sebastian Kriss - For a Latin Pop or Latin Rock Album.
Joe Chicarelli - For a Big Dry Rock or alternative Album with Attitude.

D.
Old 14th December 2007
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Gotta go with Mr Sweden heh




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Old 14th December 2007
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If you could have any engineer track and mix your album, Who?

John Paterno - For Rock or Pop Album
CLA - For a Rock album
TLA - For a Rock Album
Bob Clearmountain - For a Pop album
Mike Shipley - For a Country, Rock or Pop Album
Tchad Blake - For a project with personality
Gustavo Borner - For a Latin Pop Project
Sebastian Kriss - For a Latin Pop or Latin Rock Album.
Joe Chicarelli - For a Big Dry Rock or alternative Album with Attitude.

D.
Bob Clearmountain? 1985?
Old 14th December 2007
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Me. I love the work too much.
Old 14th December 2007
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I would love to see Tom Dowd working.
Yes I also would have loved to see Tom Dowd in action.. I would love to pick Rudy Van Gelder brain for some mic placement techniques and Hopeton "The Scientist" Brown for that low end that'll make you lose you bowel functions.
Old 14th December 2007
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Old 15th December 2007
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my picks

Producer: Bob Ezrin
Engineer Neil Avron
Mastering Ted Jensen or George Marino

Alternates:
CLA On compression
Andy Wallace on balancing
Alan Moulder on Musicality
Mark Endert on Groove
Ray Bardani on Vocals
Glyn Johns Mic placement
Eno for Keyboards
David Foster -arrangement
Jerry Hey -Horns

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