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Old 16th May 2006
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ssl j an g stereo busses

i was wondering if those of you out there who have mixed alot on both j and g boards, generally speaking have any differences in approach to the consoles? mostly im interested in how hard u hit the stereo bus on either, and if you feel you can hit the J alot harder than a 4000 or 6000 G+......i am new to the J, i found the compressors and eq's to be a little bit more useful but havent used it enough to get to really know the board yet.....thanx.
Old 16th May 2006
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Don't hit the j too hard, it will bust up in a not so nice way.
-Brian
Old 16th May 2006
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What Brian said

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Don't hit the j too hard, it will bust up in a not so nice way.
-Brian
The XL "K" as well. Great sounding desks as long as you don't hit them too hard. I haven't noticed the "clipping" as much on the stereo bus as I have on the channels. It truly is an ugly distortion.

J.R.
Old 16th May 2006
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On the E and G consoles, the meters were set up so that 0dbu on the meters = +4.

I've heard that on the J and K consoles, this is not the case. Supposed to be a better match with digital inputs or something...

I've heard, so I don't technically know...

Don't listen to me, I don't know what I'm talking about!!!
Old 16th May 2006
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Its the inputs on the J/K that sound ugly when clipped. If the desk has plasma metering, use PPM mode to see the peaks and set them just below 0, and you should be fine..
The mix buss on the other hand sounds great when pushed, so light up the L/R to taste. I typically push the mains up around +5Vu on the peaks.
Old 16th May 2006
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Its 2 different sounds.

The J and K sound to me like a bigger and wider sounding Pro Tools mix buss.

The E has a certain sound when you smash it which i am used to which can make your ears bleed if you over do it.

The G's are somewhere in between, sometimes great, sometimes not.
Old 16th May 2006
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Its the inputs on the J/K that sound ugly when clipped.
I'm suprised by that. We've got a G+ here and it really doesn't seem bothered by red lights. I haven't spent any time with the J and K series (we're not exactly awash with SSLs in northern England....)

We're building a new room here and we're 99% set on the AWS900+ and I'm guessing that it will respond in the same way as the J and K, if you drive it hard.

I was also wondering whether the bus compressor on the new SSLs, with it's 'super-analogue circuitry', sounds like the one on the G series, or if it has (inevitably) changed a little.
Old 16th May 2006
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I was also wondering whether the bus compressor on the new SSLs, with it's 'super-analogue circuitry', sounds like the one on the G series, or if it has (inevitably) changed a little.

It doesn't.

On the J its pretty much useless.

I avoid it like the plague.
Old 16th May 2006
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It doesn't.

On the J its pretty much useless.

I avoid it like the plague.
I insert around it and use it on the kick.
Old 16th May 2006
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I insert around it and use it on the kick.

I can't get myself even to do that or place it on a drumbuss(which i do on an E or G).


It just thins out the sound too much.
Old 16th May 2006
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Oh dear. Whatever did they do to it?

Leave well alone...tutt
Old 16th May 2006
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Oh dear. Whatever did they do to it?

Leave well alone...tutt

Who knows?


Maybe its the fact that its in the console.


The G compressor sounds better in the rack than on the console.


Same goes for mic pre's.


On the E it can go either way.
Old 16th May 2006
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I was also wondering whether the bus compressor on the new SSLs, with it's 'super-analogue circuitry', sounds like the one on the G series, or if it has (inevitably) changed a little.
All I can say is there's a reason most 9j/k rooms have a 384 in it...
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