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Mics & Preamps suggestions
Old 15th September 2003
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Mics & Preamps suggestions

I have $8000 (maybe $10,000) budget for ALL microphones & ALL preamps needed for a studio (Drums, Amps, Acoustics, Vocals etc.)
Any suggestions?

Old 15th September 2003
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What kind of system do you own? (Hard disk, digital tape, analog tape)

How many simultaneous channels do you want to record?

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Old 15th September 2003
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I will own Nuendo or ProTools in the very near future.
I want to record at least 16 track at once.

Thanks for replying...
Old 15th September 2003
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I responded to your thread on the other forum. But, I think you should probably stick it down to eight and eight and throw in an EQ.

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The Advark Q10 has 10 inputs (8 analog, 2 digi).... class A preamps. they go for about 700$ can or usa... I forget.

you can link two of them together and have 20 inserts.

buy a couple of condensers, dynamic mics and your set.

Good luck!

Old 15th September 2003
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Look into OSA pres.. I have a pair of the "Mutant"s, and really dig em.. amazing pre for the cash, very cool pre regardless of the cash.
Old 15th September 2003
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Do you think I'm better off getting a used 24 tracks analog mixer for $5000? Can I get anything in that price with good and worm PreAmps in it? Or should I buy only PreAmps? I'm probably going to mix in Nuendo or ProTools? What do you think?
Old 16th September 2003
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well, you might be able to get a pretty decent board for 4-5k used. call some folks like Pro Audio Design and see what they've got.

meanwhile, if you just divide the $8000 into 4k for mics and 4k for preamps, you've also got possibilites. You could get three SYTEKS for about $2400, which leaves you $1600 for the four remaining channels. Maybe a Vintech 1272 and a couple of cheapos.

but i'd probably do a combination of both ideas - get a board for $2000-$3000,and spend the rest on one or two higher quality preamps.

if you budget the remaining $4000 on mics, i'd get one decent but not too expensive vox mic (like an AT4060)for around $1000, a couple of decent small diaphragms for instruments and/or overheads (Josephson c42's are $1000 per pair). you can get a variety of good kick mic's for around $200 (like the D112 or ATM25). At least two SM57's. Then fill in whatever else you need from the usual suspects from Oktava, Marshall, Studio Projects, etc. that will probably average $100 each. These days you can actually get 16 mics for $4000, which wasn't always true.

But you should ask yourself if you really need 16 mics and pres at first. If you will be recording electric bass mostly DI, for instance, than that might be one less mic you need to buy. You may find you can do quite well with only twelve mics, in which case you cn get better quality per mic.
Old 16th September 2003
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Finally a decent response, thank you so much.
Why do you think I should get a board for $2-3K? It probably won't have good preamps in it???
Which model for three SYTEKS for about $2400? The ones I found were 2 for that price.
I want to be able to close mike the drums. Giving my budget do you think I invest in 4 Sennheiser MD421II ($1200) or get something cheaper?
Josephson c42's reviews seems to be very good, do you use them? (drums, acoustics)
Maybe instead of one $1K mic I should get 2 $500 (like NTK & GT) is it that much of a difference in quality?
So: 4*MD421 + 2*c42 + D112 + 2*sm57 + NTK + GT = $3540
What am I missing?

Sorry for asking so many questions, it's just that I feel like I'm going to loose my mind even before I start this thing...

Thanks again
Old 16th September 2003
Get the Yamaha DM 1000, which will give you 16 mic pre's a lot better effects than Nuendo, without the CPU drain issue. It will also work as a basic controller to boot in Nuendo. I would get Cubase SX 2.0 if you do not need the additional video edit bells on Nuendo.
Stereo mic's Rode NT5.
Vocals, and guitar amps: Blue Blueberry
A Beta SM 57 and 58
These are just some ideas
Old 17th September 2003
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How would you rate the Yamaha DM 1000? I want to invest more in quality than I mixer.
Old 20th September 2003
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The mics would be something like this: (at least if I had to buy new mics)

1 Soundelux U195 (perhaps even 2 of those)
1 Neumann U87
2 Neumann KM184
5 Sennheiser MD421
1 Audio Technica ATM25
1 AKG D12
2 Audio Technica AT4051 or Groove Tubes GT44
Perhaps a couple of 57's?

price? who's counting?
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