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Affordable orchestras in EU
Old 4th September 2011
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Affordable orchestras in EU

Hi,

don't know it it is in the right category, if not please move .....

I'm just discussing a production, where we might need an medium size string
orchestra on some songs.

Are there any affordable ones, or somebody has tips, maybe in czech or hungary ?

Will remote record it on location, no equipment needed (just the room and orch.)

thanks,

wolfgang
Old 4th September 2011
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I'm looking at using THESE guys for a forthcoming production.

Good luck, Mike
Old 4th September 2011
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In Poland there are some good ones. PM me, maybe I can help you out with that.
Old 4th September 2011
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ah c'mon!! Don't support the undercutters!

For a start the musicians involved in 'em are WAY underpaid.
Old 4th September 2011
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Willkommen beim Deutschen Filmorchester Babelsberg

a great place in Potsdam, Germany.
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great place with great results!!
Old 4th September 2011
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What is your budget?
I regularly hire salaried symphony orchestras in downtime days.
These are orchs that regularly record for Chandos, DG, Naxos.

Send me a PM with budget, minutes of music to be recorded, and timeframe
Old 4th September 2011
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You could contact these:

Metropole Orchestra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Radio Filharmonisch Orkest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know nothing about prices though... probebly won't be "cheap".. But at least the first 2 are partially state funded. Not sure about the third one..
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What do you consider a medium string orchestra?
45 players or are you looking for more than that?
Old 4th September 2011
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it's just a feeler right now, it's for a female artist where I co produce.

Just 2 songs need a bit big world strings. 1 ballad and 1 mid tempo.

I think it's about 6-7 minutes total to records. No symphony, "just" usual pop-pads
with some attitude ....

I guess no more than 2 hours for session, even less.

No more than 45... just the minimum to sound big ...

wolfgang
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PM´d you with a tip.
Old 4th September 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toolstudio View Post
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I think it's about 6-7 minutes total to records. No symphony, "just" usual pop-pads
with some attitude ....

wolfgang
depending how well written it is, a good producer should be able to get this done at high standards in 60-70 minutes of session time plus soundcheck.
You may want to take this to Prague in a split service where you each get 60 minutes or so.

That would be my best advice.
Alternatively you can do it a the Danish radio with their chamber orchestra. PM me if you want to look into this option. The price there is per minute of finished product, so you know where you stand pricewise. I can take it there for you if you should wish to do so.
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Prague and you will enjoy the city and can also visit me
Old 5th September 2011
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Well!

Not exactly european union but we used the Budapest Film Orchestra for one of our recordings with great results.
Mark Slater :: Film Music Composer :: Newsletter
He can sort it all out for you at incredible value for money.
Old 5th September 2011
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As mentioned before by jdieks, the Metropole Orchestra is really good. They have much experience in doing pop/rock things. I might have a studio to record them in for you ( depends on when exactly you wish to record ). If you feel like it you can PM for details.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toolstudio View Post
it's just a feeler right now, it's for a female artist where I co produce.

Just 2 songs need a bit big world strings. 1 ballad and 1 mid tempo.

I think it's about 6-7 minutes total to records. No symphony, "just" usual pop-pads
with some attitude ....

I guess no more than 2 hours for session, even less.

No more than 45... just the minimum to sound big ...

wolfgang
Not really the answer to your original question, but for a pop song something like LASS can get you very far.

LASS Music Demos
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I wouldn't have trouble finding an adequate orchestra or individual players, but finding an adequate room might be a bit harder. Are such facilities common in the EU?
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I wouldn't have trouble finding an adequate orchestra or individual players, but finding an adequate room might be a bit harder. Are such facilities common in the EU?
There is the odd concerthall here and there in europe...
Old 5th September 2011
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Hi, I can recommend doing that with members of the sinfonie orchestra basel in the Volskhaus Studio Basel
Volkshaus Studio Basel / Welcome
contact David for Booking Room and Orchestra. Contact me if you need an engineer and if you would like to use the mics that are on that webpage, that are all mines. (New are 3 KM53 with orignial Alu Membran and balls).

We do almost all German Filmscores from the composer Niki Reiser there. We also worked in Berlin and Prezlau, but finally we liked it most in Basel, mainly becuase the stingplayers are good (in Berin also) but moreover the room is just absolutly fantastic.

It's not the cheapest solution but also not the most expensive.

Best
Daniel
www.ideeundklang.com
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There is the odd concerthall here and there in europe...
This would not be my first choice for a recording session and the cost would be astronomical, at least in the US, to rent an entire concert hall.
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Nobody has mentioned yet the best one of all!
Old 6th September 2011
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Quote:
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Nobody has mentioned yet the best one of all!
the best? I thought they were looking for cost effective

The BEST is in Berlin or London. End of!!!
Old 6th September 2011
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the best? I thought they were looking for cost effective

The BEST is in Berlin or London. End of!!!
Or Liverpool! :-P
Old 6th September 2011
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the best? I thought they were looking for cost effective

The BEST is in Berlin or London. End of!!!
"In December 2008, a group of top critics invited by Gramophone ranked the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra as the top symphony orchestra in the world."

or Amsterdam... :P
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"In December 2008, a group of top critics invited by Gramophone ranked the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra as the top symphony orchestra in the world."

or Amsterdam... :P
Granted!!

Guess I'm referring to session players via fixers rather than full time orchestras. Bit partial to the ol' Berlin Phil meself though!!
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np
Old 15th September 2011
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Hey Wolfgang,
contact Daniel...nice, guy, awesome studio & mic collection.
and you HAVE to hear his mastering setup!!!

prepared to be shocked ;-))

cheers tom

ps: beer or coffee soon!?!



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Originally Posted by idee und klang View Post
Hi, I can recommend doing that with members of the sinfonie orchestra basel in the Volskhaus Studio Basel
Volkshaus Studio Basel / Welcome
contact David for Booking Room and Orchestra. Contact me if you need an engineer and if you would like to use the mics that are on that webpage, that are all mines. (New are 3 KM53 with orignial Alu Membran and balls).

We do almost all German Filmscores from the composer there. We also worked in Berlin and Prezlau, but finally we liked it most in Basel, mainly becuase the stingplayers are good (in Berin also) but moreover the room is just absolutly fantastic.

It's not the cheapest solution but also not the most expensive.

Best
Daniel
www.ideeundklang.com
Old 15th September 2011
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Too stupid that I don't have a link at hand, but the most affordable – and really really good – string section, with recording studio, in Europe is in Sarajevo. I hope they can be found on the internet somehow. Nothing but good experiences from producers I've talked to.
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