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New Mic Preamp for my Neumann TLM 103 Single-Channel Preamps
Old 3rd September 2011
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New Mic Preamp for my Neumann TLM 103

Hi All,

I'm looking for a new preamp to go with my Neumann TLM 103. I'm looking to spend between £600 - £700 new or secondhand, I don't need any bells and whistles just a straight forward preamp, 1 input is enough 2 would be nice but not essential and an instrument DI input.

I will mainly be using the preamp for Male vocals, Acoustic guitar and some Electric guitar.

Any suggestions/ personal experiences?

Kind Regards,
Josh
Old 3rd September 2011
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Focusrite ISA one would be a great match.
Old 4th September 2011
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Not sure what the current exchange rate comes out to be, but my main pre amp is the Great River ME-1NV, which seems to compliment the TLM-103 very well. A lot of people on here like to hate on the TLM-103, but I've got some great vocal tracks through it when paired up with the Great River. I've got quite a few other microphones since then, so the 103 doesn't get called into action as much any more, but it does sound good through that pre-amp (usually followed by a Cranesong Trakker through the UA-2192 converters).
Old 4th September 2011
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ADL600 would be great
Old 4th September 2011
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As much as I may consider the TLM103 to be a less than ideal microphone (I'm a hater of it for sure), the Great River product is an exceptional pre amp.

An SM7B for 1/3 the money of the 103 might be a nice option for you down the road.

Coupled with the Great River it sounds good (SM7B).
Old 4th September 2011
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an AML 5003D would help give the 103 the warmth and fullness it needs... i think a 103 and a focusrite would be downright icy...
Old 4th September 2011
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Thanks for your helpful suggestions guys.
I have tried it with the Focusrite ISA One and it actually sounded nice, I just wanted to see what the other options were...
The Great River looks really good but a little outside my price range (Maybe one will come up on ebay soon :-) )

The ADL600 is way out of my price bracket and the AML5003d I can't seem to find it for sale in the UK; only in the US.

Any other suggestions guys?

Thanks,
Josh
Old 4th September 2011
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Daking Mic Pre One.
Old 4th September 2011
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..... the AML5003d I can't seem to find it for sale in the UK
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Old 5th September 2011
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Hey SlenderChap
I have had a look at the AML5003D pre and it has some very good reviews!!!
I'm new to the whole 500 series so please bear with me :-)
For this series you need rack/ power supply to power the preamps... such as the API Lunchbox which is approx ?400, that seems pretty pricey considering it's essentially just a power supply. Do you know of any other manufacturers that provide a similar 500 series rack and a much cheaper price? The combination of the AML5003D and the rack will push me over my original budget.

Thanks for your help,

Josh
Old 5th September 2011
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there are rackmountable 2 preamp-space racks for 500 series...at about 300$. (more or less 175 pounds)
Old 6th September 2011
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There's also the UA Solo 610.
Old 6th September 2011
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FMR RNP will leave you change for an RNC!
Old 7th September 2011
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I found my Phoenix Audio DRS-2 ( or 1) does a nice job of taking a little of that cold edge off the 103.

-R
Old 7th September 2011
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As much as I may consider the TLM103 to be a less than ideal microphone (I'm a hater of it for sure), the Great River product is an exceptional pre amp.

An SM7B for 1/3 the money of the 103 might be a nice option for you down the road.

Coupled with the Great River it sounds good (SM7B).
+1000 on this. I have WAS debating a TLM103 or similar LDC (AT4050, C414b XLII, bla bla) just for vocals until I bought the Great River ME1NV. I can't justify buying another mic with the sound I can get from it and an SM-7b. It even makes SM57/58s shine. I tried it with a female backing vocalist but with a C414b XLS and I didn't need to to much more with the track except play with the fader until it sat right in the mix.
Old 7th September 2011
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Only thing I ever liked my TLM103 was a Dan Alexander dual 1272, I think the GR would be a little to neutral to give it that big Neve vibe that made it work!

I do agree though I would find the SM7B far more useful for vocals about 98% of the time.

Ask your self this, Am I looking for the right pre for this mic? Or, am I trying to find a pre that will make this mic work for me? If its the Latter go mic shopping, no pre is going to change a mic drastically, subtly yes but I have never heard of a pre ruining a take!
Old 7th September 2011
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While the 103 is in no way the screeching banshee it is sometimes said to be, it does have a very present tone, so a thick/dark preamp might be a good complement.
I remember Fletcher writing that Mercenary uses a TLM103 to check preamps: if a pre doesn't exaggerate the 103's character, it's considered good.
Old 7th September 2011
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(...) Do you know of any other manufacturers that provide a similar 500 series rack and a much cheaper price?
Check out lunchboxhero.com
Old 7th September 2011
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I have a TLM-103 and find the UA LA-610 adds plenty of much-needed warmth, sounds great.
Old 7th September 2011
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I would go for a neutral pre with the TLM 103. Its funny because I never considered using the GR with it, I always plug it into the 737.
Old 10th September 2011
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Hey Guys,
Thanks for all your feedback, I found an Avalon M5 going cheap on Ebay so I thought I would give that a try... I have read both good and bad things about it :-s I'll let you know how I get on.

Thanks,
Josh
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