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Old 14th March 2006
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without any good preamp, no high end stuff, no analog summing, no...

I composed this song one year ago and at that time I had no high end audio gear.
But, with or without high end equipment, the song was on the radio! Perhaps they liked it?!
I'dd like to know your oppinion.
bye!
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Old 14th March 2006
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Well wow, I think it sounds great. I haven't listed on a good system but the vocalist is great and the other performances, arrangement and recording/mixing are all well done too. Congrats!
Old 16th March 2006
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THANKS! Glad you liked it...
The femele vocalist recorded in 10 min!!!!! She had a flu, and some "red wine" comming out of her.thumbsup quite impresive...
The song is dificult.
Old 16th March 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blue_scorpion
THANKS! Glad you liked it...
The femele vocalist recorded in 10 min!!!!! She had a flu, and some "red wine" comming out of her.thumbsup quite impresive...
The song is dificult.
Yes, I often find that the more time I have to work on something and think about it, the possibility that I'll screw it up it becomes more likely.

Pardon my ignorance but what language is it sung in? Romanian or??

And what it the singer's name?

thanks.
Old 16th March 2006
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Speck X-sum is "high end" or class A?!

it's ok that it has 16 stereo channels, but I can't test how it sounds. Maybe you'll give me some directions...
Or better said: The cheap analog summing boxes like Audient Sumo, Speck X sum, ...sound AS GOOD AS their bigger brothers like SPL Mixdream, Nicerizer 16, 8816, etc...
Old 16th March 2006
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oh, SORRY!

I thought i've posted a NEW THREAD...
yes, it's Romanian and the singer isn't somebody who's known, she's singing in restaurants...
The song was on radio because they made an evening with some songs I've composed.
Old 16th March 2006
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Now I've got goosebumps all over both my arms...
Old 16th March 2006
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Sounds good...! Ok, ( if you remember) what gear did you use on this recording?..
Old 16th March 2006
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prepare to be surprized...

M 149 mic - Behringer tube pre - BEHRINGER tube compressor - AD Prodif PLUS (a 10 years old soundcard...16 bit), plug ins for processing (WAVES, Timeworks, ...). As I said: NO HIGH END AT ALL...

Now I'm planning for a whole new setup:
M149 (I'll keep it) - GREAT RIVER MEQ 1NV pre/eq - EL 8X Distressor compressor - AD/DA Aurora 16 with AES 16 - end I'm thinking also to a good analog summing solution.
For vocal tracking I can't decide myself between the Distressor EL 8X and the Purple Audio MC 77. I haven't listen to any of them, just what I've heard frum you, guys and from thelisteningsessions.com (but there they combine only mics and pres. No comps...)
In Romania you can't find any place to try out thees beauties...

So, what do you say about what could I realize with my current setup (Behringer... )
I'm very glad that guys like you, with very well trained and professionals ears, enjoyed listening to my composition and mix down!!!
Old 16th March 2006
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As a true low ender....

I take offense to your claim that your recording is low end, while using a $2,700

neuman microphone!...


Just joking heh


But whas the gear you mentioned just the vocal chain? do you remember the chain for the drums bass and guitar as well?

i ask cause it all sounds nice!

oh, might as well ask what sequencer you used too
Old 17th March 2006
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Drums and everything, exept the 2 guitars solo, was computer programing (samples). Those are the only audio units that I still curently have in my studio.
In 2 weeks, I'll upgrade!!! I would have done it until now, but only 2 months ago I have discovered GEARSLUTZ and with it, the high end stuff...At least, by READING not TESTING.
I have in mind to obtain a US visa, buy a plain ticket to NY and go for Vintage King to (FINALY!!!) test some of the equipment I've just said I want to buy. Perhaps, by testing, I can change my mind about the Great River pre\eq, or the Distressor or the Purple Audio MC 77 comp for tracking, or...I don't know...
BUT, this will be very difficult, because in Romania you don't obtain US visas very easy. I'm afraid that the equipment listed above (the upgrade) will be my final choice.
I'M VERY GLAD YOU LIKE MY SONG! I've won some composition conests in Romania...
Old 17th March 2006
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Very nice track!!!! Good work! Tell me, who is the singer? Great pipes!
Old 17th March 2006
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GOOSEBUMBS

CHICKEN SKIN

That says it all
Old 21st March 2006
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WOW!

Thank you guys!
You really seem to like my song. Incredibble, with BEHRIGER compressor (100 $) and a very old 16 bit sound card...
I'm so happy that now, after many years, I'LL UPGRADE!!!
Crane Song Trakker will be in my rack instead of the Behringer...
Aurora 16 I will use instead of the old Pro Dif soundcard...
Great River MEQ 1NV instead of the Behringer preamp...(yeah!)
Folcrom with 2 x API 512c as for the Analog Summing...PRETTY COOL, don't you think?!
Old 21st March 2006
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You'll enjoy what happens with a better pre. And for a limiter, I'd go tube.
Old 22nd March 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blue_scorpion
only 2 months ago I have discovered GEARSLUTZ and with it, the high end stuff


Danger, Will Robinson!
Old 22nd March 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverdisk
As a true low ender....

I take offense to your claim that your recording is low end, while using a $2,700

neuman microphone!...
And a $1300 preamp (SPL Channel 1) !heh


Not my cup of tea, but well recorded.

That girl can sing, get her out of the restaurant!
Old 22nd March 2006
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...the SPL I own it now. When I did that recording, BEHRINGER was my preamp...
Old 22nd March 2006
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Why "Danger"?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by copperx


Danger, Will Robinson!
Hi! You said "danger" about what?!
Old 22nd March 2006
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Hey Blue, who's the gal? Any websites/info?
Old 23rd March 2006
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Getting on the radio or selling records has nothing to do with how good anything sounds. Furthermore has nothing to do with gear or ears. It is all song, arrangement and vibe. Anything more is just for a select few IMO. I might have left out something and I am sure someone here will think of it.


www.bluethumbproductions.com
Old 23rd March 2006
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It's got a David Foster / Diane Warren vibe.
Old 23rd March 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blue_scorpion
Hi! You said "danger" about what?!
I was kidding heh

Are you sure you want an analog summing solution? I mean, if you
have unlimited funds definitely get it!. Personally, I don't think the expense/
hassle/limitations of analog summing is sonically justified. I think it is just a fad.

Distressor for voice? isn't that overkill

I just heard your song. Excellent. May I ask you what reverb did
you use on the voice?
Old 23rd March 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by copperx
I was kidding heh

Are you sure you want an analog summing solution? I mean, if you
have unlimited funds definitely get it!. Personally, I don't think the expense/
hassle/limitations of analog summing is sonically justified. I think it is just a fad.

Distressor for voice? isn't that overkill

I just heard your song. Excellent. May I ask you what reverb did
you use on the voice?
Hi, cooperX! When I said "analog summing" I thought at nothing else more expensive than a passive Folcrom and 2 API 512c pres.
So, all the digital settings will remain exactly as they were un my project, but they will go out from my Aurora through this simple chain.
Is a 2000$ expensive for a 16 track analog summing?! I, personaly, don't think so.

As for the reverb on this song (for voice) I used the one you find on Waves Diamond 5 pack. True verb. Not so impressive, but I added some PSP plugins and it's quite ok now.
Old 25th March 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blue_scorpion
Hi! You said "danger" about what?!
Danger, Will Robinson!
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Old 25th March 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blue_scorpion
Is a 2000$ expensive for a 16 track analog summing?! I, personaly, don't think so.
may as well spend another $700 and get the Nicerizer 16.
Old 25th March 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imagine
Danger, Will Robinson!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...v=glance&n=130

Old 25th March 2006
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Your song is prooving that the arrangement, the composition and the performance of a song, followed by the sound of the instruments are most imprtant for the overall impression of a recording. In opposition to most posters I think the vocals and the guitars sound cheap to my ears and the overall sonic impression is a bit earpiercing.
Amazing Performance of the singer!
Old 26th March 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected]
I might have left out something and I am sure someone here will think of it.

connections, politics, and payola?


gregoire
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Old 26th March 2006
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Good job man.

This is a fun site but in the end it's all about the song.
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