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Compressor for Vocals (MIXING)....which one?
Old 11th September 2014
  #61
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I use a Sta-Level and I love it deeply but I've been amazed at how often my Crane Song Falcon wins out.
Nice to hear since I'm thinking of buying a Falcon

Can't afford a STA or a 176 at the moment :(
Old 11th September 2014
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The Retro 176 is a clone of the Urei 176 from the 60's..They simply were not many around...And before that was the 175...
Exactly ! and that's why there is a * next to new making it new*

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It took many years for something new* to come up and take over the classics. Thumbs up Retro !
Retro are doing something very right here. there are countless clones and designs that are based on 1176 & La-2a. none has ever directly replaced them for vocals. the vintage ones was always more sought after.
Retro redid the STA level and 176 and they both are becoming the defacto vocal compressors here on GS. they have created demand for their product instead of creating another vintage hysteria.. I don't see anybody even care for an original STA or 176 once have a Retro
Old 12th September 2014
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Many great suggestions in this thread, one that I haven't seen that I consider a secret weapon is the DBX 165a, especially on backing vocals or in parallel.
Old 12th September 2014
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i'm very fond of the Tubetech CL1B for vocals, or other opto's. But also an API525 or even a distressor can do the job.
Old 12th September 2014
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LA2A. Check out Regular John Recording, his clone is incredible.
Old 13th September 2014
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I think you should chain the Fatso (no compression) into the 225.

Shave the loudest stuff with the Fatso, running it so the peaks are tickling the Pinned light, then setting the Warmth to where it occasionally flickers 1-3db on the edgy stuff.

Then feed it into the 225, soft knee, 3:1, fast attack, release between 250-750 depending on how hairy you want things. Level it as needed.

Tons of vibe and texture in that combo.


Gregory Scott - ubk
With or without tranny on fatso? New or old setting on 225?
Old 13th September 2014
  #67
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Hi!


I am looking for another great Compressor, specially for vocal duties during Mixing.

I have the :

API 225L
Distressor EL8X
Fatso (Original)
Purple Audio MC77
The Compressor in the Tubetech MEC1A that is the classic Tubetech Comp.
The Compressor in the Trident S40
and the Compressor in the Millennia STT1 (that I think is Meeeh_)

I was thinking about getting a RETRO 176 or the STA Level...

Knowing what I have, do u think that compressor will really bring me a better- coller vibe and texture for Lead Vocal, during mixing?

Maybe an Opto - Manley or a Master Bus Comp VCA doing double duty such as the Smart C2 Mono/Stereo - They are smooth as silk on vocals and give that Million buck sound.

You have a pretty decent arsenal of compressors, I'd chain a few together and see what results you get -Maybe try for more that kind of "Magic" type Compression some esoteric units will give you!

Good luck!

Last edited by TheLastByte; 21st February 2015 at 07:01 AM.. Reason: typo
Old 13th September 2014
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Many great suggestions in this thread, one that I haven't seen that I consider a secret weapon is the DBX 165a, especially on backing vocals or in parallel.
This is cool in parallel on vocals.
Old 14th September 2014
  #69
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Anyone who hasn't used Tim Farrant's Buzz Audio opto compressors is missing out!

They are just unbelievably AMAZING!

They boost levels with unmistakable presence and detail without any undesirable artifacts!

Exactly like a truly kickass compressor should!

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Old 14th September 2014
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Anyone who hasn't used Tim Farrant's Buzz Audio opto compressors is missing out!

They are just unbelievably AMAZING!

They boost levels with unmistakable presence and detail without any undesirable artifacts!

Exactly like a truly kickass compressor should!

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Yeah- this is spot on for the Buzz Essence, which gives a general thickening as well. The built in sidechain is very cool as well.

GJ
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Old 15th September 2014
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Go big or go home...

STA all the way.

What a piece of gear.
Old 16th September 2014
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Id say with the collection you have you don't really NEED and new comp. You are covering a lot of ground with the arsenal you currently have. That being said if you WANT a new compressor I have experience with the

API 525
API 527
1176 Rev D
Purple Action
Purple Mc77
TK Audio Bc1
Overstayer
FMR RNLA 500 (which is NOT the same circuit as the unbalanced 1/3 rack version)

Id say get into a 525 or the 527... both are very versatile. Not the same character by any stretch of the imagination but honestly both good units. I lean more toward the 527 being I feel its more versatile. I loved it on vocals. It kicks serious ASS on Bass by the way.
Old 17th September 2014
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UA LA2A & 1176 plugs for me.
Old 18th September 2014
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For mixing I love my Manley Vari Mu. For tracking Manley ELOP. I'm definitely interested in the two Retros - the Sta level and 176. What's the difference between those two? Anyone with experience compare/contrast those two or relate them to other known entities?
Old 19th September 2014
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Another vote for the Retro 176.
Old 19th September 2014
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I think you should chain the Fatso (no compression) into the 225.

Shave the loudest stuff with the Fatso, running it so the peaks are tickling the Pinned light, then setting the Warmth to where it occasionally flickers 1-3db on the edgy stuff.

Then feed it into the 225, soft knee, 3:1, fast attack, release between 250-750 depending on how hairy you want things. Level it as needed.

Tons of vibe and texture in that combo.


Gregory Scott - ubk

Exactly. Try chaining what you have in different combo's. It opens up a whole different world as far as the compressors that you do have...which are good enough already.
Old 20th September 2014
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You might consider the Inward Connections 'The Brute' for Vox.
Old 14th October 2014
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I am back to Tube-tech's CL1B on vocals. It's been around for so many years the CL1B is easy to forget among all those new hyped toys of us.
Recent punk mix project took me to the Distressor EL8 on lead vox and the Purple MC77 can be a perfect match for males pop vocals.
All these compressors are perfect when they are perfect and not at any other time.
Old 14th October 2014
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I am back to Tube-tech's CL1B on vocals. It's been around for so many years the CL1B is easy to forget among all those new hyped toys of us.
Recent punk mix project took me to the Distressor EL8 on lead vox and the Purple MC77 can be a perfect match for male pop vocals.
All these compressors are perfect when they are perfect and not at any other time.
Old 15th October 2014
  #80
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Distressor fed into STA, 1176, and cl1b in parallel summed into a pultec eqp1a3.

It's got a real thick strong molasses type of feel.
Old 15th October 2014
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for mixing nothing beats a nice selection of 1176 blue stripes to chose from depending on the character you want to achieve AND a retro 176

desert island setup
Old 16th October 2014
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JLM LA500 is my go to.
Old 18th February 2015
  #83
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Has anyone who has a Retro Sta Level tried the SK Note Sta Limit? I'd be curious to hear if the emulation is anywhere near the hardware. I have no access to the hardware and like the emulation, but would be curious to hear samples, etc. Always frustrating because makes me want the hardware, but gives perspective....
Old 18th February 2015
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Old 19th February 2015
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The Lisson Grove AR-1 has now ousted my Retro 176 when I'm looking for smoooooooth vocals. It just sounds like a record right off the mark.
Old 19th February 2015
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^ ugh wow, thanks. i gotta stop hanging out here at gearporn, realporn is cheaper
Old 22nd February 2015
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Really?

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The Lisson Grove AR-1 has now ousted my Retro 176 when I'm looking for smoooooooth vocals. It just sounds like a record right off the mark.
Really? Not the Aml 54f50?
Old 22nd February 2015
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Really? Not the Aml 54f50?
Lisson Grove for smoooooth and creamy. AML for authority with added sparkle.
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