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Old 18th December 2010
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burn 3K$ on API

Got the Waves V7 API Collection, a pair of Distressors, a SPL Tube Mastering Vitalizer, an ART Pro VLA2 and SSL Duende.
I also have Slate FG-X and VCC

I really like what the Waves 2500 does on the mixbus, especially in mixes where the distressors are sitting on the drumbus

I am looking for what the Waves 2500 gives me, but then with more balls, less boxy sound. should i take an 2500 or a lunchbox with 2 5xx EQ's and 2 comps?, do the lunchbox modules give the same sound as the 2500 unit? so basically mixbuss colouring... thoughts welcome!
Old 19th December 2010
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Hy Raphie.

If you like the 2500 plug you should definitively go for the 2500 ( the real one ) sounds even a big step better IMO. I have the 2500 since years and you can really use it most of things. I haven`t heard a 527 or 525 but i think they arent the same thing.

The 525:
It`s a FET not a VCA like the 2500, so other sound. The Attack there is fast as hell!

The 527:
Has lot`s of features the 2500 has got but is more inspired by the 225L. And most important to me: Lacks of fast attack. Fastest attack is 1.0ms thats the 12`o clock setting on a 2500, but there you can go all the way down till 0.03ms! Which is really fast. you can flat out all transients. You can`t do that with a 527.

So really need the 2500 if you like that sound. The others are other heh
Old 20th December 2010
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And most important to me: Lacks of fast attack. Fastest attack is 1.0ms thats the 12`o clock setting on a 2500, but there you can go all the way down till 0.03ms! Which is really fast. you can flat out all transients. You can`t do that with a 527.
The 2500 "says" it can do 0.03ms and flatten the transients but in real life it couldn't be further from the truth... waaaaayyyy toooo slowwwwwww...
Old 21st December 2010
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The 2500 "says" it can do 0.03ms and flatten the transients but in real life it couldn't be further from the truth... waaaaayyyy toooo slowwwwwww...

Agreed, that's the main reason I never took to it on drums, too much of a 'pop' on the leading edge. Great for the modern thwack in parallel, but I'm old school, I like 'em fast, like 1176 or vari-mu kinda fast.

But that same attack character is awesome on acoustic guitars, vocals, mixes, and just about everything else. thumbsup


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Old 21st December 2010
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hmm thats funny...
i thought the 2500 is pretty fast cause to my ears and eyes ( wen i look at the file on cubase wich is gone trough the 2500 in its fastest setting ) i felt that way.

I have an had a Dynax2, Sta Level, Tla C1, some purple actions and of course the 2500. Out of these, he`s the only one how can clamp the transients away...

But probably the 525 is best in this task.
Old 22nd December 2010
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Agreed, that's the main reason I never took to it on drums, too much of a 'pop' on the leading edge. Great for the modern thwack in parallel, but I'm old school, I like 'em fast, like 1176 or vari-mu kinda fast.
My thoughts exactly. Not suitable for drum buss with the way I work.

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I have an had a Dynax2, Sta Level, Tla C1, some purple actions and of course the 2500. Out of these, he`s the only one how can clamp the transients away...
You're right - because all of the others you mentioned are extremely slow (especially the Dynax2). Relatively the 2500 is faster, but in an absolute scenario not fast enough.
Old 22nd December 2010
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Ok then, which ones are fast compressors beside of 1176, dbx 160sl, api 525?
Old 22nd December 2010
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Thermionic Phoenix

Langevin El-Op

Valley People Dyna-Mite

and the undisputed king of fast: Elysia mpressor

Also, almost every non-hardware-modeling plugin.


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Old 22nd December 2010
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and the undisputed king of fast: Elysia mpressor
Old 1st January 2011
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ThnX guys,

So i ordered the 2500 heh

since i've also got SSL XCOMP , i could use both in a chain in order to "shave peaks" and "add character" right?
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