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High End Drum Bus Compressor suggestions Dynamics Processors (HW)
Old 18th December 2010
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High End Drum Bus Compressor suggestions

Suggestions for a great compressor to use on the drum bus?
I mainly do pop-rock.
Budget max $4k.

I uploaded a drum clip: recordings much appreciated.

Thanks.
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acoustic_drums100.wav (2.42 MB, 5112 views)

Old 18th December 2010
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API 2500. Sick on drum buss. Can be very cool on 2buss as well.
Old 18th December 2010
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Chandler, distressors, SSL/Smart, Neve... all of them different, all of them nice on drums. What kind of sound you looking for ?
Old 18th December 2010
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API 2500. Sick on drum buss. Can be very cool on 2buss as well.
Old 18th December 2010
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Thanks for the replies.

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What kind of sound you looking for ?
Not to act as a limiter, but something to give it a tad of growl without losing clarity.

That would be nice if you might process my file through your gear.

T.Y.
Old 18th December 2010
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NTP 179-470 Dual Limiter. Thats the sound of High-end, folks.
Old 18th December 2010
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The ubk Fatso would be a great reach, and has many character options and is just soooo easy to dial in.

I've got a ton of compressors on a mono drum buss in my Clipalator gear test page on the site. The ubk Fatso brings great control and high average levels without getting all pumpy.

War
Old 18th December 2010
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Everything I would suggest seems to be on here. For a really dirty sound I always love a Pair of PURPLE ACTION 500 series comps, or even Two API 527's
Old 18th December 2010
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Your drum clip sounds nice. API 2500 or API 527 pair. I have both and they are very nice on drums.
Old 18th December 2010
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Suggestions for a great compressor to use on the drum bus?
I mainly do pop-rock.
Budget max $4k
Elysia mpressor would be my first choice. SSL also killer. API 2500 is too slow for me.
Old 18th December 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioGreg View Post
Suggestions for a great compressor to use on the drum bus?
I mainly do pop-rock.
Budget max $4k.

I uploaded a drum clip: recordings much appreciated.

Thanks.

It's not exactly hi-end but I did dig the xpressor 500 on drum bus. What really stood out to me was the GRL knob - the gain reduction limiter which can let you limit how much it compresses. I liked it because I could dial in some good compression on the drums but then start twisting that knob to limit the amount of compression and then the snare started clearing up again and poking through the compression. It made it easy to find a compressed drum sound with an un-compressed sounding, punchy snare.

The warm button added a nice thump to the low end and the sidechain filter stopped the comp from sucking all the low end out of it.

regards,
Frank
Old 19th December 2010
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2500 or C2
Old 19th December 2010
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Have not heard too much about it lately, but the Chandler Zener really excelled on drum buss.
Old 19th December 2010
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Quote:
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...That would be nice if you might process my file through your gear..
Here you are.
This is my favourite tube compressor, QES Labs Variable Gm.
file 1 w/out S/C HPF, file 2 with hpf, file 3 parallel compression,
file 4: gentle settings.

Have fun!
heh
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acoustic_drums_Vari-Gm_1.wav (2.42 MB, 4509 views)

acoustic_drums_Vari-Gm_2.wav (2.42 MB, 4236 views)

acoustic_drums_parallel.wav (2.42 MB, 4186 views)

ac_drums_Vari-Gm_gentle.wav (2.42 MB, 4106 views)

Old 19th December 2010
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I would suggest two compressors, one for parallel processing followed by one for the whole drumgroup. in parallel stuff like the TG1 or Zener rock for an explosive ambience sound - the same can be gotten way cheaper with a A&D F600 as well. for the drumgroup I like my 160sl a lot, ssl is classic for this As well, vertigo vsc2, endless possibilities. drumsubgroups also really benefit from saturating the peaks away with stuff like fatsos or a 747 with cranked up input dial and output at minus 20dB. with the 747 you can actually compress, eq and saturate the drumbuss, plus there are two bands of sidechain eq built in as well. the bang for buck combo would be an F600 clone plus a used 747 (dirt cheap cause underrated, just like the 160sl).
Rock on!
Old 19th December 2010
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Any Elysia compressor. Also, the RockRuepel Comp One is a big evil drum punch beast of sorts.
Old 19th December 2010
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my smart c1 is tasty... as a matter of fact I might have to buy another for the 2bus
Old 19th December 2010
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See the files below for some samples of Portico compression at work on the drum bus. The ratio is just a little right of 2:1 and also used are quick attack and release times, and both clips feature exactly the same ratio, attack and release settings. The FF version is in 'Feed Forward' mode which gives you a fast modern type of compression. If it's a modern sound you're after though I've heard that nothing grabs as fast as an Alan Smart or SSL bus compressor though the Portico also does a fine job. The FB version is in 'Feed Back' mode which gives the unit a slower attack time similar to old Neve compressors I'm told. I prefer FF mode but these are the two but you get both flavors with the Portico.
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File Type: aif acoustic_drums_PORTICO_FB.aif (3.64 MB, 907 views) File Type: aif acoustic_drums_PORTICO_FF.aif (3.64 MB, 690 views)
Old 19th December 2010
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One of my personal favorites is the Summit DCL200----I've used this box for years, HUGE tone. There's many other suggestions to consider, but that's one of my favorites.
Old 19th December 2010
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ssl comp

The ssl comp never fails on this
Old 19th December 2010
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my smart c1 is tasty... as a matter of fact I might have to buy another for the 2bus
I do love the meat in the low end the c1 has to offer, has some hair on it.
Old 19th December 2010
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Manley VariMu

One very subtle setting (the one I use most of the time) and two "smash" settings with input all the way up and fast attack. I tried to be close to the original file volume...
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acoustic_drums_manley_varimu_gentle.wav (3.63 MB, 3645 views)

acoustic_drums_manley_varimu_compressorsmash.wav (3.63 MB, 3734 views)

acoustic_drums_manley_varimu_limitersmash.wav (3.63 MB, 3586 views)

Old 19th December 2010
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smart c2 - I have one for sale.
Old 19th December 2010
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No suggestions for a pair of 1176s? I'm confused.
Old 19th December 2010
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2500 or C2
+1 thumbsup

my thoughts exactly...

but many more to choose from (and very good as well), demo everything if you can, if you can't and want to go safe, get the 2500.
Old 19th December 2010
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The following have worked well on both Rock and Electronic Music :
Al Smart C1 or C2
API 2500 and UBK Fatso (a bit of tweaking to get right but worth it ..)

More for Smashing Rock :
Urei 1178 or 1176's
ADR 760 Compex
Blackface Valley People Dynamite Every now and then the Dynamite wipes the floor when things are too polite ..
Old 19th December 2010
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Obsidian

Hi,

I ran your loop through my Dramstic Audio Obsidian compressor and did a few variations. Here's the settings I used:

Clean - Att: 10ms Rel: .Auto Ratio: 4 HiPassFilter: OFF 4db Reduction

Punch - Att: 30ms Rel: .3s Ratio: 8 HiPassFilter: 185 6db Reduction

Smashed - Att: 1ms Rel: .6s Ratio: Skull HiPassFilter: 105 8-12db Reduction

Lo fi - Att: 10ms Rel: Lo-Fi Ratio: 4 HiPassFilter: OFF 5db Reduction

Regards,
Frank
Attached Files

Drums-Clean-3.wav (2.42 MB, 3638 views)

Drums-Punch-2.wav (2.42 MB, 3805 views)

Drums-Smashed-1.wav (2.42 MB, 3694 views)

Drums-LoFi-4.wav (2.42 MB, 3434 views)

Old 19th December 2010
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I would be very tempted to go Soft and get a Steve Slate FG-X. Very punchy compressor / limited that really pushes the transients in the drums. Is designed for mastering but very cool on drum buses. Unfortunately uses about 2GB RAM by itself so if running on a normal size setup might require printing before you carry on.
Old 19th December 2010
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Quote:
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This is my favourite tube compressor, QES Labs Variable Gm.
heh
+1

That drum sounded huge! A big rock drum sound.

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I ran your loop through my Dramstic Audio Obsidian compressor...
The clean (3) file was nice too.
Old 19th December 2010
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Quote:
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Suggestions for a great compressor to use on the drum bus?
I mainly do pop-rock.
Budget max $4k.

I uploaded a drum clip: recordings much appreciated.

Thanks.
Your raw drum tracks sounds great. Mind sharing the details? I particularly like the kick!

Once I have finished mixing for the day i will send your clip through the quad comp on our SSL 4000.

Al
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