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Ever see a really old AKG C414?
Old 3rd December 2005
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Ever see a really old AKG C414?

I know that the vets here have seen and probably used some 414's with the CK12 brass capsules, but I'm sure that some of the younger guys have probably never seen what the original 414 looked like. rdaudio's post in the classifieds for a pair of "2nd generation" 414's with CK12's and how much he liked them on acoustic guitar reminded me how long it had been since I had used mine to record an acoustic....so today I had a session with acoustic and out came the old boys and WOW, I'd forgotten just how good they could be on a fine acoustic guitar.
FYI the one on the left is a 414 and the one on the right is a 412. I'm the original owner of each and no, not for sale.
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Old 3rd December 2005
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Damn, that's nice, you slut!
Old 3rd December 2005
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I had 2 of those 414s stolen from my NYC studio about 4 years ago. They cut through a wall to get in. I'm still bummed.
Old 3rd December 2005
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Yeah - I've sen this type of old 414before, but I forget where..... and I'm in my 30's! (barely)
Old 29th August 2006
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Hello, first post here. I have seen those types before. Infact I just bought 4 of them!! 2 of them have a female 6 pin connector with a diameter thats alittle bit larger than the standard XLR. The other 2 have standard male XLR connectors. However I do not have "Stand Adaptor" for any of them. To my knowledge the "Stand Adaptor" should have a male 6 pin on the microphone connecting end and an XLR on the other. So these mics really need the adaptors to be mounted. The serial # for the 6 pin mics are aprox 238 and 240. LOW!! They are very minty, I think perhaps because being a 6 pin connection they were used very little. The Other 2 are in the 2000's and only 3 numbers apart and are in excellent cond. So I'm looking for a male 6 pin a little bigger than XLR that coincide or the "Stand adaptor". I just dont want to modify these mics if I dont have to. These mics were also from Eastern Europe if that helps. The XLR ones sound fantastic by the way. CK12's and all. Any help would be very appreciated.
Thank you.
Jim
Old 23rd March 2009
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6 pin adaptors for the early C414

Hi Jim,

Not sure if you are still looking but are your mics the remote EB version as i have 2 remote units and 2 C414's that are also very early seriels #232 and #252 i think, the remote boxes are blue and i think they are called S41E, i say i think as i am at work and the mics are at home, and me and my business partner are thinking of selling most of our kit soon.

Cheers

Mark
Old 23rd March 2009
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when did the c414 first come out on the market?
Old 23rd March 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Kerr View Post
Hello, first post here. I have seen those types before. Infact I just bought 4 of them!! 2 of them have a female 6 pin connector with a diameter thats alittle bit larger than the standard XLR. The other 2 have standard male XLR connectors. However I do not have "Stand Adaptor" for any of them. To my knowledge the "Stand Adaptor" should have a male 6 pin on the microphone connecting end and an XLR on the other. So these mics really need the adaptors to be mounted. The serial # for the 6 pin mics are aprox 238 and 240. LOW!! They are very minty, I think perhaps because being a 6 pin connection they were used very little. The Other 2 are in the 2000's and only 3 numbers apart and are in excellent cond. So I'm looking for a male 6 pin a little bigger than XLR that coincide or the "Stand adaptor". I just dont want to modify these mics if I dont have to. These mics were also from Eastern Europe if that helps. The XLR ones sound fantastic by the way. CK12's and all. Any help would be very appreciated.
Thank you.
Jim
hi jim, i have 2 stand mounts if you want to pm me. cheers.
Old 23rd March 2009
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Where's your C12A ? The REAL original 414! I had a matched pair and sold them in 2002 in a fit of stupidity for $3200. Excuse me while I go smack my head against the wall. Thanks for the memories.
Old 23rd March 2009
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On a related subtopic, my C414 has a loose swivel on the mount and I can't tighten it so that the mic and the mount are aligned (the mic leans forward). May be a stripped screw. Any suggestions for repair?
Old 23rd March 2009
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I used to do a lot of male V.O.s with a C414 in the '80s. Big and full.
A definite favorite of mine. My all silver C414EBs with brass capsule
aren't bad either. Love them on Piano.
Old 23rd March 2009
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On a related subtopic, my C414 has a loose swivel on the mount and I can't tighten it so that the mic and the mount are aligned (the mic leans forward). May be a stripped screw. Any suggestions for repair?
Hey Hud,
Don't know if this is your problem but here is what happened to mine. The screw only seems to thread in so far and as the rubber washers get old they harden and shrink which forces the screw to have to be over tightened to the point that it won't go any further and the mic won't maintain it's position. I went to a hardware store with the mount in hand and found new soft rubber washers that fit in snugly and that solved the problem.
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Where's your C12A ? The REAL original 414! I had a matched pair and sold them in 2002 in a fit of stupidity for $3200. Excuse me while I go smack my head against the wall. Thanks for the memories.
First AKG mic I´ve ever used, around -74.

Matti
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Old 23rd March 2009
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Hey Hud,
Don't know if this is your problem but here is what happened to mine. The screw only seems to thread in so far and as the rubber washers get old they harden and shrink which forces the screw to have to be over tightened to the point that it won't go any further and the mic won't maintain it's position. I went to a hardware store with the mount in hand and found new soft rubber washers that fit in snugly and that solved the problem.
Thanks, Rick. I'll check it out when I get back to Austin (on vacation in MT), that sounds like a likely fix.
Old 24th March 2009
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I've got one of those, (ser1093) but the casing says "Made in Australia". Were they made here under license by someone? I can't even remember where I got it from.
Old 24th March 2009
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Maybe someone added an extra "al" to it. Mine say made in Austria.
I have seen several with the Norelco logo on them.
Old 24th March 2009
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Hi Rick, I thought maybe I had misread it, called our assistant and he went and checked and it says........ Austria. Now I'm off to check my passport in case I came back to the wrong country...
Old 24th March 2009
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Hi Rick, I thought maybe I had misread it, called our assistant and he went and checked and it says........ Austria. Now I'm off to check my passport in case I came back to the wrong country...
Hey Led! The devil is indeed in the details!!!
Old 11th May 2010
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Bumping this one up with a question.

At my day gig we have three of these old school 414's from around 1972, and I use them often. Love their sound. One of the plastic tabs on the pattern select switch on one of them broke off last week when preparing for a session and it is now stuck in cardioid. Is there a readily available source for these switches, or a reputable repair contact?

Thanks
Old 11th May 2010
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Is the only dif between the 414 and the 412 the lack of hyper pattern?
Old 11th May 2010
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Bumping this one up with a question.

At my day gig we have three of these old school 414's from around 1972, and I use them often. Love their sound. One of the plastic tabs on the pattern select switch on one of them broke off last week when preparing for a session and it is now stuck in cardioid. Is there a readily available source for these switches, or a reputable repair contact?

Thanks
Have you tried calling the AKG rep in your country? Almost certainly it's an easy thing for them to do. Sennheiser (UK distributor) had no issues replacing the switch in one of my 1975 KM84s.
Old 23rd February 2012
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Resurrecting this wonderful thread....
I am looking for one of those original C414 swivelmounts (the grey/silver, V-shaped thing that connects the micbody to the stand) as I have bought an original C414comb but the seller had lost the mount.

Does anybody have one for sale or knows some 414 owners who use the mics in shockmounts and might be willing to sell me one of the jobless swivelmounts?

Thanks slutz,
Flo


ps - my C414 comb was modded to XLR, it now has the same "stump" XLR output as the modern ones. I am not sure if that makes it incompatible with the swivel mounts. Anyone?
Old 23rd February 2012
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If mounting is your problem this is the solution

Here is mine
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Old 23rd February 2012
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Thanks but I am looking for the swivel mount because I just like the look
Having said that....you have one and you do not need it as the rycote takes care of mounting wanna sell it to me?

Best,
Flo
Old 24th February 2012
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ps - my C414 comb was modded to XLR, it now has the same "stump" XLR output as the modern ones. I am not sure if that makes it incompatible with the swivel mounts. Anyone?
It wouldn't be directly compatible, that's for sure. As to whether it could be made compatible with further mods, that's hard to say and I wouldn't go down that road personally.

The swivel mount has a ring around the Cannon male 6 pin connector, this ring has threads on the outside. This is designed to connect to threads on the original base of the mic, and you turn the horizontal wheel that you see on the mount in order to attach the two together.

Without that (ie with no reciprocal threads on the mic because that part is gone), you may be able to modify the base to use an XLR female connector instead of the original connector... not sure if they are size compatible... if not, you may have to cut the hole larger, and then there would be the matters of securing the female connector at just the right height for it all to line up, and whether the base on the mic now fits the swivel base otherwise.

Even if you made all that work, without those threads connecting the mic to the swivel base, you would be relying only on the tension of the pins of the XLR connectors to hold the mic and base together. You'd have to somehow remove or disable the latch on the female XLR connector, because you would have no way to reach it once it is inside the swivel mount.

So I don't think going back to the original swivel mount is viable unless you have the correct original base and connector on the mic.
Old 24th February 2012
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Hey Rick! Nice COMB's!! I wanted em! :D
Old 24th February 2012
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For anyone who cares, this is the best chronology of the 414 history that I've seen:

Story of the AKG C414


Kirt Shearer
Old 26th February 2012
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Thanks Teleharmonium, this is very good stuff, all new to me!
Old 13th March 2013
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Hi folks!
I own one of these, serial number 415, aprox from 1972 i think, is a beautifull mic, no for all voices, it has more lows than new ones, i remember this from many years ago when i brought it.
But... Recently i've used in a drum session as OH center mic, and was amazing!
I use for electric guitarr too, complemented with a md441 for mids,
Very happy with it
Im thinking to buy mached pair of new ones
Old 30th November 2014
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Resurrecting an old thread before opening up a new one…

Looking for one swivel mount/stand adaptor for one of my C414comb.
Anyone selling one at a reasonable price, pm me plz.
Thanks!
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