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SPL Transient Designer Dynamics Plugins
Old 13th February 2004
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Originally posted by zarathoustra
the only thing i have not "transient designed" yet is vocals.
In a "parallel" thing, it can do wonders for vocals... I've used it on bass, on guitars, in line, on parallel busses... I'm starting to be convinced that there isn't anything this thing can't do.

I loaned one to my friend Brian Duffy who's doing FOH for "Howie Day" [they're doing a North American tour with the "Stereophonics"... possibly the best show I've seen in a couple of years!!], and he's using a Transient Designer 4 before some noise gates on his rack toms... the drums were thunderous, but very controlled... amazing for a live application!!

I could never say enough good stuff about the TD-4... I don't know, or care how they did it.... I'm just damn glad they did.
Old 13th February 2004
  #122
OK that's it!

I'm not selling mine now!



Jules
(My other car is a Sony)
Old 13th February 2004
  #123
i dont have hi end gear as much as others here, but i own also a td4 and its ALWAYS in use... its groovey, it rocks and its very easy to use. go and buy one.

i like it espacially on percussive tracks and percussion busses.

u can also make very hard staccato sounds or u can soften them...

regards deft:::
Old 13th February 2004
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great, thx for all the input folks, it seems like what i was looking for.

i have a problem with drummers who dont know how to HIT the ****ING snare! (yes, Im one of those dumbasses who considers the kick/snare sounds to be half the ****ing song--the other half being the money--err, lead vox).

will it help me fix pussy snares?? seems like a definate yes, eh? (and yes, I do replacement and blended samples, but I REALLY hate that ****, it never sounds as good as I want).

peace,

kt
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Old 13th February 2004
  #125
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I can't say it will make a John Bohnam out of a 130 pound weakling, but it certainly helps. I have a TD4 and want another. I use it a lot for what I used to use compression for on drums. Not a replacement, but a very useful alternative.
Old 7th March 2004
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Jules and other Transient Designer and Transient Mod users

I've used the Trans Designer for years and recently got the Sony plug. wondering if anyone has some presets for the plug that are similar to the hardware. I usually use the hardware for getting rid of attack and then adding decay. (9 oclock and 3 oclock on the TD) Can the plug do both at the same time like this? any help would be cool.
thanks
drew
Old 8th March 2004
  #127
I think so...

I mean, you are describing a soft attack / sustained sound right?

The Sony TransMod plug in is easily capable of doing this - with very adjustible 'style' IMHO.

The only thing it may not be able to emulate is that mad setting on the Transient Designer of full attack and full sustain - but I always found that to be a fairly redundant setting anyway...

I should sell my TD but at the moment I am keeping it to amuse the engineers that come through my place..

Have you tried using it to re master an over compressed mix? Works a treat to bring back 'drum punch'!
Old 8th March 2004
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Well when you do sell it Jules... sell it to me. I have 8 channels of it running in my rig and plan on adding more... I'm using the damn thing either on, or in parallel with so many elements it's starting to scare me a bit.
Old 8th March 2004
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So what does it actually do ?

It kind of seems like what the attack and release on a compressor do without the compressor.

Is that even close ?
Old 9th March 2004
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Jeeze Fletcher! what the HELL do you get up to with it on 8 signals?



Old 9th March 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by kevinc
So what does it actually do ?

It kind of seems like what the attack and release on a compressor do without the compressor.

Is that even close ?

It allows for +/- control over the attack and decay envelopes of a signal without the amplitude threshold or time-based limitations of compression. For example, the "attack" of a compressor is controlling the speed in which said compressor reacts to signal. "Attack" of Transient Designer is controlling the level of the signal's attack regardless of amplitude or frequency. It's a very different way of controlling things that compression has been used for in the past.
Old 9th March 2004
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Thanks JP.
Old 21st July 2004
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SPL Transient Designer

for those familiar with this unit, i was wondering if you normally use these in conjunction with a compressor or other units and if so, which would come first in the chain? also, is the unit more for after tracking or would you use it during tracking as well? any other tips on this unit would be greatly appreciated as i am all but talked into this piece.... thanks. prolly pick one up this week!
Old 21st July 2004
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oh, and where can i get one.... their list of dealers is lengthy but no one stocks them! i checked several.
Old 21st July 2004
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That's a good question about where to put a comp in the chain. I am not sure. It may be a personal preference kinda thing.
I wouldn't track with it unless you really want to commit to that sound. I think it would be better for mixdown.
I'm pretty sure that the transient designer 2 is 2 ch of unbalanced 1/4" connectors, (a deal breaker for some) where the TD4 is 4 ch of balanced xlr connectors. Check it out and see what works for you.

Good Luck!
Old 21st July 2004
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I use it mainly when I'm mixing. Great for getting definition to a kik or snare. I like to get the transients unharmed when I'm tracking so I save it for later. I tend to put the compressor after the TD.
Old 21st July 2004
  #137
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Quote:
Originally posted by sadworld
oh, and where can i get one.... their list of dealers is lengthy but no one stocks them! i checked several.
I got mine from (of all places) Guitar Center Hollywood because somebody ordered it and never picked it up.
Call around, you may get lucky.
Old 21st July 2004
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Oh, You can get it here:
http://www.audiomidi.com
Old 22nd July 2004
  #139
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Or you could buy the CreamWare Scope system (the new 'Home' version) and the SPL Transient Designer plug-in (four instances worth) and still be money ahead. Perhaps that's why SPL never made it available for any other platform.

If you go that route, you may also want to buy the SPL Transient Attacker plug-in for Scope. It's attacks only (as the name suggests) but less money still.
Old 22nd July 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by sadworld
oh, and where can i get one.... their list of dealers is lengthy but no one stocks them! i checked several.
my recommendation is www.mercenary.com that way you're not stuck with it unless it blows you away.
joshua
Old 22nd July 2004
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Try Calistro music.. Craig.........
Old 22nd July 2004
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1. I find it almost indispensible. I use it during mixdown on Kick/Snare/Stereo Toms. Then run a parallel sub of them through the Fatso on SSL Buss type Comp. I occasionally use the TD on overheads to either give more room or less room by boosting or cutting the sustain.

2. www.Mercenary.com doubles the warranty on all the stuff they sell IIRC.
Old 22nd July 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matthew D

I'm pretty sure that the transient designer 2 is 2 ch of unbalanced 1/4" connectors, (a deal breaker for some) where the TD4 is 4 ch of balanced xlr connectors.
That's a good tip, I'm looking for one, guess I'll narrow the search down to the 4 channel version then..


putting a compressor after the TRD would be my guess too. That way u use the TD to do what its name implies and the compressor for doing what its name implies... I guess putting the compresser before the TD could mess up the power of the TD.

haven't tried it though...
Old 22nd July 2004
  #144
i use it always during mixdown, because i've had too much problems controlling peaks if turn up the attack, especially with percussive materials.

and i put the comp before the td. because i'd like to have an "equaled" signal going into the td, although it's not necessary. sometimes i squash the transients with the comp before just to control them again with the td. this gives a special sound, but i remember you that i am doing a lot of electronic stuff.

deft:::
Old 22nd July 2004
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Here some examples

SPL:

After tuning and spending a while with the inner padding on a kick drum the SPL unit helped us get closer to the sound we wanted...

I set up a Senn 441 into a API as a high "point at snare" mic - I had it through a UA1176 with all buttons in - but the SPL unit sounded better

Sony TransMod:

I had a song in where the drums were oviously done in a smalll boxy hard surface overdub booth. The whole drums sound suffered from nasty early reflective sound. - using the Sony TransMod on all the indevidual drum channels I was able to 'take away' room tone... and get a "dead" un ambient punchy sound to work with.
Old 22nd July 2004
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Jules how do you rate the Sony against the SPL?
Old 22nd July 2004
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We have 5 TD-4s in stock. If anyone is interested in a demo give me a call.


Thanks
Rob
Old 22nd July 2004
  #148
redroom - "Jules how do you rate the Sony against the SPL?"

The sony rocks - so does the SPL

The hardware SPL has a cool hardware groove

The Sony has a cool software groove

Sorry if this is frustrating news!

Old 22nd July 2004
  #149
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I think I'll give the demo of the Sony a wirl on the powercore as a transient deisgner are something missing in my rig.
Old 23rd July 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by jabney
Or you could buy the CreamWare Scope system... and the SPL Transient Designer plug-in
Amen.

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