man, there are so many of them. im diggin my moogerfooger 12stage phaser a lot. i have been holding onto this zoom 9000 pedal SOLELY for its flanger, its noisy as hell but has suck a killer sound to it. i usually go for the phaser sound over the flangers, but they are close to the same beast in application. ill even run the two inline with each other to get even more wicked.
im always using stomp boxes for this kind of stuff over studio "rack" stuff, they are dirtier or something. most digi stuff just doesnt sound "right" to me when they include that type of effect.... although the deep phase nine is pretty nice for a plugin, that combined with their orbit plug is a nice combo.
as always, its hard to recommend a "best" without knowing the source.
If anyone is interested, I have one of those 4 space MXR racks with two Auto Flangers and two Auto Phasers for sale. I want 2k for whole rack. The condition is excellent. Fletcher bought my other MXR rack from me a few months back and he was very happy about the purchase. These are great flangers and phasers and they are hard to find. I would keep them, but I need cash more than I need these things.
i like my TC M1xl's flange...hell i love that machine.....
heres a nice effect i've been experimenting with
leslie 20 with an old as hell ampeg amp....slow speed...a deep chorus with the time set just a bit off the speed of the leslie...run it back out through the duncan amp and use two mics one near and one at about 6'...move them till the phase is a bit out and mix to taste...its not flanged but its clear and has a cool vibe....
Electro Harmonix Poly Chorus. From Cocteau Twins to Nausea and back. Apparently the new ones aren't as noisy as the originals. Still, I wish I'd bought the original that I borrowed when they offered it to me.rollz
The Marshall was really nice but more radical than tape. It used analog delay lines with a companding noise rediction system similar to DBX to make it quiet enough.
I was really dfegad when they refused to repair ours and have avoided all of their subsuquent products.
I'm still looking for a great flanger. I'd love to get one of the MXR rackmount ones but I can't find one for a reasonable price ($250 or less). For pedals the MXR and Electric Mistress are pretty cool but the ADA is the fukkin bomb!
The MXR rack I got from Lord Alvin is ****ing amazing... it has 2x Auto-Phasors and 2x Auto-Flangers and you can lock the VCO's on any of them so with a little 'auto-panning' and these critters you can get shit spinning around the listeners head even out of speakers!! Fuggedaboudit in a 'surround' application!!! It's too cool for humans to experience.
The Loft 440 and 450 are seriously cool, as if the early Eventide stuff... but they still don't beat doing it for real with a couple of 1/4" decks [IMNSHO].
Originally posted by Fletcher The MXR rack I got from Lord Alvin is ****ing amazing... it has 2x Auto-Phasors and 2x Auto-Flangers and you can lock the VCO's on any of them so with a little 'auto-panning' and these critters you can get shit spinning around the listeners head even out of speakers!! Fuggedaboudit in a 'surround' application!!! It's too cool for humans to experience.\[IMNSHO].
you should try those moogerfoogers sometime... with a 251 control center, or better yet... when the voyager comes out and use the tactile surface and CV. and im NOT talking about those shitty ass butt****try plugins... those things blow.
Originally posted by mwagener what is the best (studio) flanger short of using two tape machines. Anybody use a Marshall time modulator (or got one for sale)?
Try the Roland SBF-325 flanger. It's got a few modes and as a bonus it has a chorus setting that's of the same era as the classic Roland/Boss choruses.
The MXR Flanger/Doubler is nice too.
Other units that are harder to source for a decent price include the AMS DM 2.20 (They call it a tape phase simulator, but it really does nice flanging and other weirdness) and the Dynacord TAM 21
As far as MTM's go, let's just say this - when they are working they are the best sounding flanger/fx unit made. On the other hand, every MTM I've owned has died on me. Mr. St. Croix has 2 of my units (an early prototype and a 5002 that was going to be upgraded to a 5402) and he's had them for a number of years. He has never made the service manual available and to my knowledge isn't actively repairing any units. A tech in Calif. has done some work reverse engineering the units and has repaired a couple.
Usual issues with them include the weirdass +-20v power supply that connects via an edge connector at the rear of the unit, the power diodes tend to blow, and the dbx noise cards can fail. Early Eventide Harmonizers (910/949) used a dbx card that was very similar and I believe they can be harvested to repair an MTM.
Given all that, a working MTM can produce a flange deep enough and with very sharp resonant peaks and feedback to blow up any speaker system made.... (that's a good thing)