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The best flanger Plugin Presets/Expansions
Old 6th August 2008
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I have an MXR Micro flanger from the 80's that I rehoused in a new pedal case. Best damn flanger / chorus I've ever heard. It's mono though.
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Old 6th August 2008
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I have two MXR "Auto-Phasors" and two MXR "Auto Flangers". I have them set up so you can use any combination of the two and "lock" their VCO's for stereo operation. I usually prefer an "Auto-Phasor" / "Auto- Flanger" combination with locked VCO's as I think it adds a real 'depth' to the sound... as Jim mentioned earlier, taking the "dry" signal and delaying it a few milliseconds so you get "zero crossing" is a pretty damn cool trick [eats up 3 inputs on the desk... but hell, it's worth it!!... usually].

Peace.
Old 6th August 2008
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Just try the DSP 4000. It really is just like tape flanging. I'm not kidding. It works on exactly the same principle, only it's much easier to control. And yes, I've done REAL tape flanging many times, so I know what it sounds like and exactly how it works.

Listen to the Pretenders cover of "Axis: Bold as Love" on the "Last of the Independents" album. I probably should have come up with something different for that, but I just loved the original so much that all I could think of was to do the same thing. That was the DSP 4000: "Manual Tape Flanger".

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I've played with taht patch on the 4000 as well and thought it was the tits. But I am curious, do you automate it somehow, or do you just turn the dial by hand for each pass and "wing it"? Or do you do some trick of blending it in, because I was just trying it as an insert on the mix bus and turning the knob to get the flange, which sounded fantastic, but I wasn't sure of the best way to control it.

I'd also like to add for some people another nice method that probably no one will believe me on. But in PT there's an audio suite flanger that ONLY shows up as audio suite and does an amazing job. Maybe not as good as the MXR or the 4000, but really close and the big advantage being that you can pick and choose which tracks are going to be affected. So in those cases where certain elements of the mix kinda ruine the flange effect (like the bass for instance), you can get more selective. Or in those cases where you want that drum fill to flange, but not the kick drum, etc.

Old 19th October 2008
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just to keep the flanging thread going...

one of my Marshall TIme Modulators (5002a version) is on eBay now. I also am going to sell one of my AMS DM 2.20's and the Dynacord TAM 21 (don't worry kids, I'm still keeping a bunch).

Haven't decided whether to go auction or straight sale on the AMS and Dynacord, so if anyone has a sudden desire to own either, please help me make up my mind.
Old 19th October 2008
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I find the pedals get a great deep and dirty flange. As someone else mentioned the 70's ADA guitar pedals are to die for -the best I've heard. I picked one up because all the guitar guys rave about them. They were right.

My 80's MXR flanger is also great.

If you try to run the foot pedals direct from your converters you'll get a thin sound (not even close to how they sound). You need to correctly "reamp" the signal to guitar level so they see the ohms they are designed for and then DI them back into your system.


Someone mentioned the TC 1210. Care to share your secret? Mine, at best, gets to "subtle" but never deep and swooshy. What am I missing?
Old 19th October 2008
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Oh, funny but useless piece of flanging/phasing trivia.

An engineer friend of mine has 2 mementos he grabbed that were left behind from the Stones 70's sessions when they were recording "Some Girls" (a very phasy album)

Keith's Phase 90 and Mick's coke spoon.

Probably sums up a good portion of that album
Old 19th October 2008
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I find the pedals get a great deep and dirty flange. As someone else mentioned the 70's ADA guitar pedals are to die for -the best I've heard. I picked one up because all the guitar guys rave about them. They were right.

My 80's MXR flanger is also great.

If you try to run the foot pedals direct from your converters you'll get a thin sound (not even close to how they sound). You need to correctly "reamp" the signal to guitar level so they see the ohms they are designed for and then DI them back into your system.


Someone mentioned the TC 1210. Care to share your secret? Mine, at best, gets to "subtle" but never deep and swooshy. What am I missing?
I've always used the tc 1210 as a chorus/spatial expander type of effect (similar to but different than the Dimension D). I've never tried to adjust it in such a way as to get flanging.

Time to go play...
Old 4th December 2008
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I love the Foxrox TZF Paradox. True thru-zero flanging!
Paradox TZF is probably the best analog flanger ever produced in form of floor board. Controllable via expression pedals with many combinations (Leslie, quasi choruses and similar) it is most sought after device.
One year after being discontinued (typical price was 369 $) price doubled.
Old 5th December 2008
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Nobody bothers to draw pitch shift curves on a cloned track? The track can be effected to sound like tape or a bucket-brigade-delay analog chip (convolution or re-amped through an analog delay set to 100%).

Thru zero is easy with a cloned track, and synchronising with musical beats is too easy if your DAW is using musical time. Automation curves can be drawn for panning at the same time.

I recall reading a comment in Recording the Beatles - something about how the difference between phasing & flanging is whether the cloned track is phase inverted or not. So try DAW mixer phase buttons. Previously i'd always considered the difference was a matter of the time delay - but I think there is really a continuum between phasing/flanging/chorus so there's no hard & fast definition.

If you know how to use & combine digital with analog, there are too many options to explore. Buying analog pedals removes some of those choices - which can be a good thing or a bad thing.

Instead of drawing automation curves, there are vibrato plugins that can sync to tempo that achieve the same thing. I use the Kjaerhus GMO-1, which is a bit quirky but has phase offset in degrees for the LFO, and a choice of LFO waveforms.

Square wave LFO can get closer to Roland Dimension effects - or 'near square wave' to avoid clicks.

An Allpass filter that can be automated is a great phaser too ...
Old 5th December 2008
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Man ---- when I was in High School --- years ago I remember getting an ART rack mount effects unit. I LOVED the flanger on that ---- I've never heard anything since that was as nice as that.
Old 5th December 2008
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The flanger is Samplitude 10 is one of the best ones I have ever heard. I don't care for the mono flanger sound it has, but when I put a stereo flanger on a mono guitar, it was amazing.
Old 5th December 2008
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So are there any flangers that have not been mentioned? ;-)
Old 6th December 2008
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So are there any flangers that have not been mentioned? ;-)
Bel BF-20. I've got one of the 1U newer ones. Nice dedicated flanger.

Ivan
Old 6th December 2008
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TC

The TC Electronic 1210 can do a very nice stereo Flanging. - Big Bonus Its 100% Analog.
+ it has XLR Balanced connectors, its quiet, and very useful in an analog Mixdown.
Old 6th December 2008
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ADA Flanger. Due for a reissue in the new year supposedly. Haven't used it myself. Supposed to be quite good.
Old 6th December 2008
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Another vote for the Loft 450...great box with voltage control in.


Regards,

MM
Old 1st February 2009
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Paul Wolff built a wonderful flanger/doubler that he incorporated into the FOH console at The Bayou in DC back in the late 70s. The flanger had a random ripple in the sweep that could come damn close to the bounce that tape would give you. It was brilliant. I've been after him for way too many years to put it out. I hope he jumps in and tells more about it.
Old 1st February 2009
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moogerfooger 12 stage phaser gets some nice warm flange all analog
Old 1st February 2009
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electro-harmonix "electric mistress" = greatest flanger of all time, IMO. all-analog, it literally drips with character and has been used on many a major recording.
Old 1st February 2009
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The new Eventide Modfx pedal has a great flanger along with other mod effects in the unit. It's a pedal but has the option of using it at line level as well. Stereo in and outs. They sell new for $399. It really is a great sounding flanger.
Old 1st February 2009
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man, there are so many of them. im diggin my moogerfooger 12stage phaser a lot. i have been holding onto this zoom 9000 pedal SOLELY for its flanger, its noisy as hell but has suck a killer sound to it. i usually go for the phaser sound over the flangers, but they are close to the same beast in application. ill even run the two inline with each other to get even more wicked.

im always using stomp boxes for this kind of stuff over studio "rack" stuff, they are dirtier or something. most digi stuff just doesnt sound "right" to me when they include that type of effect.... although the deep phase nine is pretty nice for a plugin, that combined with their orbit plug is a nice combo.

as always, its hard to recommend a "best" without knowing the source.
Old 1st February 2009
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The moog phaser is a nice warm phaser but it's not a flanger.
Old 4th August 2009
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Old 5th August 2009
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plugin in wise its definitely the digidesign tape flanger. Its got a bit of a processing lag without delay comp but sounds sooooo nice.
Old 5th August 2009
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eric johnson used/uses a blue face mxr rack mount unit, got some amazing sounds on ah via musicom


um this thread is about 7 years old too..pile on
Old 26th December 2009
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late to chime in on this thread, but I've been up to my neck in Flanger or flanging capable devices... MXR Flanger / Doubler, Lexicon Prime Time I+II, Ibanez UE-400 + AD-202, Eventide Instant Flanger, ADA [TFX4, what a secret weapon for racked analogue goodness!], DeltaLab DL-4, Marshall Time Modulator, Loft 440 [selling, I think... PM if you want it ] and soon, MicMix DynaFlanger and TC-1210..

While all of the above are great at flanging, few achieve that "Thru-Zero-Flanging" effect, save for the MTM and Loft 440 [well, sort of]..

Being a DJ as well, I used Traktor Scratch and loaded two audio files on each deck in Traktor -- if you don't know, it's for playing MP3s / WAVs / AIFs like a DJ would.. Started up 2 turntables with a locked pitch, or occasional pinching of the turntable spindle, and hit play, then recorded the 2-track mix back into Logic. The effect really is the same that you'd get with tape without the expense.

The sound had that gigantic swoosh of a jet taking off at points.. so delicious! I highly recommend.
Old 26th December 2009
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Most Flanges keep sweeping constantly. But a tape machine or two turntables is more varied.
I was gonna say, a tape machine and your fingers. This is the high end forum, right? But for quick FX, any pedal will do, they are all different. I actually like the more expensive Boss one. Its good enough. Do they make a tape on a loop flanger? That would be cool! I like a nasty loud delay line before flanger for trippy effects. DID DO DAD DOT DUUNNNNNN!! stike
Old 26th December 2009
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ADA flanger.
Electro Harmonix Deluxe Electric Mistress.
EHX.com | Deluxe Electric Mistress - Analog Flanger | Electro-Harmonix
Old Boss Flanger pedal was good for JET effect in heavy rock guitars.

Digital: Eventide H3000 series.
Old 26th December 2009
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ADA STD-1 stereo tapped delay is a great flanger.

Ivan
Old 26th December 2009
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Old Boss Flanger pedal was good for JET effect in heavy rock guitars.
Yea love that one, SO BADASS, real deep and super prominent! Put some heavy delay before it and play stacatto for some crazy techno like leads.
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