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Auditronics 710 console?
Old 16th October 2009
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Auditronics 710 console?

This console has been listed in my area for awhile, The guy is asking 4k for it with a bunch of cable and patch bay ect. Going to see it in person tomorrow, so is there anything i should know before hand.

On a side note: What are good questions to ask when buying a used console like this?

Right now I have a Tascam m3700. wondering if this this would be a worth while investment? Any thoughts or tips?

Here is the video of the console.
YouTube - production console for sale

Thanks
Brad
Old 16th October 2009
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Go Bronco's-

I'm in the same area, and also considered that board. It's really hard to find anything on those, IIRC when I was looking at it, the 701 is pretty well reguarded, but there isn't much clarity on rather this was an improvement from that or not.

I would imagine it would be a step up from the tascam, but it's hard to say if it would be worth it considering the cost/time of commissioning/maintenance/repairs. Ultimately I went with a control surface and an HD rig.

Good luck, sorry if that isn't much help. . .
Old 16th October 2009
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Did you actually go and look at it? If so what were your impressions on it? Did you get to hear anything through it?
Old 17th October 2009
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Anyone? Any Help?
Old 17th October 2009
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i used to own one... good desk with jensen xformers on the outputs


do a search and just buy it!
Old 17th October 2009
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$2000.00 is a great price for this console. I have some Auditronics 110 consoles in my studio for years now that I mix through and did recap a 701 that looked just like this console some years back.This one might use the tranzamp op amps like the one I did the recap on. I don't remember much about the transformers that we're in the 701 but good chance it's Jensen's. Nice sounding board for the price! The studio got some nice sounding mixes on the 701 that I worked on.

I would buy it for that price if I we're in the market for a console.This board new was probably around $40,000 or more....

Sorry I don't have more info to give ya but I love my Auditronics consoles and will never get rid of them!

You could always change out the main stereo output transformers with a different flavor transformer if you wanted. or perhaps the stock one's sound more then good enough.

Just my 2 cents!
Old 17th October 2009
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For 2K its an absolute no brainer...

Get a truck... hand over the cash and be done with it!

To recap..

Transamp opamps on the mic inputs.. I found these VERY punchy for drums.. kinda like (im not saying exactly!) API with out the transformer goodness.

Jensens on all outputs including the stereo buss

EQ is kinda OK, but pretty broad Q so its no surgical tool and the filters are functional.
buy yourself a 10 space API rack and fill it with 500 series.. there are more than enough quality eq on the market to fill out the rck and help you out on specialist tasks/sources where the EQ might not exactly cut it. Im not ragging on the EQ as its useable,... but hey look at my namesake and you may have an appreciation of where i'm coming from!


Fully pro specs in terms of headroom.. Ie+ 24DBu .

These are pretty stock in terms of signal path, functionality and parts. I am sure they could be tweaked and hot tod modded etc.

The fact it has a patch bay integral is almost worth the price alone when you think about it

For the small cost that the gent is asking you will save yourself a fortune of time and cash. Its a pro desk so get it setup/grounded properly and have a good tech go over it once its in its new home and settled and ake some cool music/mixes on it.

Wiggy
Old 17th October 2009
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Brad, do you know if that console uses 532 input modules? I have a bunch of them and I've been going nuts trying to find a schematic. If anyone here has any leads I would be very grateful, and glad to pay for any time needed to copy it! Thanks.
Old 17th October 2009
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check

It's missing parts, weak eq........I guess the pre-amps/transformers can be used....cheaper than purchasing a few 500 pre's.....
Make sure you check to see if all transformers are present because seen a couple of these for sale a few years ago missing some to all transformers.
Old 18th October 2009
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Here is the email he sent me today about. After the advise here I'm going to get a truck and pick it up Monday.

"it was originally built in 1982 for the university of colorado. was there for about 15 years when they replaced it with a neve. then it went to a filmaker, i got it from him, i went through a bad seperation 2.5 years ago and it was put into temp controlled storage. i pulled it out in the spring thinking it was sold but guy flaked out. it was alway maintained by an Auditronics tech while at the university before they sold out to wheatstone, the film guy only used it for monitoring stems , and i used it for personal projects mostly. Caps all look good, transformers are intact. all stock as far as i know.

i'm not using it and dont have room thus the price and i need it gone. it comes with the box of cabling all open ended and molexed, a racked dual ps. i would run a brush through the patchbay just to be thorough and a can or two of cleaner on the pots. it was covered and temp controlled but it is a vintage analog *console so sticks are perpetually innevitable. you can run the tielines or pick up a studio patch maybe and run it like that. the main thing you need to make sure of is a proper ground. that is vital, but not as if you did not know that. You can look at the soundcraft 500 too if that better suits your needs. call me and let me know what time youre coming up, i'm running errands this morning so leave a message if i dont answer."
Old 18th October 2009
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I'll check on the manual and see what it has about schematics
Old 18th October 2009
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I own a couple of Auditronics 501 channel strips, not sure how similar they are. But damn these things sound great. The eq is broad, but sweet. Some of the nicest eq I have heard and you will just want to dial in more. It is inductor based eq.
The Jensen transformers have a great transient punch with a fat warmth. Like I said, not sure how different the 501 is, but if I could pick up an entire console of 501's I would not hesitate.
Old 18th October 2009
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701

A 710 is not like a 501 different animal
Old 18th October 2009
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Good to know.
Old 18th October 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 8068 View Post
A 710 is not like a 501 different animal
Like a Unicorn that no one can find/have or a prairie dog that isn't worth it's weight in any currency?
Old 19th October 2009
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Driving up to check out the console in the morning. I'll report back after the visit.

Brad
Old 19th October 2009
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It's auditronics, it's from the early 80's... that's about all the info I'd need. Assuming it's not a total trainwreck, I'd have hauled it home the instant I found out about it.

$2000, good lord. Pro Tools rigs cost more than that, and people don't bat an eye when buying those. But maybe you want to ignore me, I use late 70's Tascam gear feeding a Studer and honestly it's a tossup to me which part of the rig sounds better.


Gregory Scott - ubk
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Old 19th October 2009
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Originally Posted by u b k View Post
It's auditronics, it's from the early 80's... that's about all the info I'd need. Assuming it's not a total trainwreck, I'd have hauled it home the instant I found out about it.

$2000, good lord. Pro Tools rigs cost more than that, and people don't bat an eye when buying those. But maybe you want to ignore me, I use late 70's Tascam gear feeding a Studer and honestly it's a tossup to me which part of the rig sounds better.


Gregory Scott - ubk
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This is kinda of the approach I'm taking to getting it, but I still want to do my due diligence about it. I'm taking up speakers, mics, cable, and tools, to give it a full rundown.
Depending on what happens, I could be the proud new owner of this board at 12pm PST.
Old 19th October 2009
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Like a Unicorn that no one can find/have or a prairie dog that isn't worth it's weight in any currency?
WTF.....not sure what that means.
Good luck with the console though.
Old 19th October 2009
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I considered that console as well, but I was told "it's equivalent to a Soundcraft Ghost with more **** that can go wrong"

But, that may or may not be true. It's a nice looking console, and I'm sure changing some OP AMPs and could open it up.
Old 19th October 2009
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Picked up the console today. Looks awesome. It needs a good cleaning and a few replacemet parts, but shouldn't take too long to get up an rolling. Once I get it cleaned up then I'll be looking into Op Amp replacements. Wiring this thing is going to be interesting since it uses a bunch of Molex connectors for the patch. I'll post some pics in a little while. I might even consider doing a 710 restore thread since there doesn't seem to be a lot of info out there on these.

Thanks for all the advise, good or bad.
Old 20th October 2009
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Good work...

It defacates all over soundcraft ghost!

Yes watch the molex... get a good strong crimper and let the tech do it...

WE need pics of your new baby!

Wiggy
Old 21st October 2009
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After wrestling with the thing down a flight of stairs it's finally upright in the control room.

I've been fighting with it and the manual to get audio/mic signal to pass through it. and I finally was successful tonight.

It's almost like whenever you get a new piece of gear you have to learn to speak it's "language" and if you can't you're screwed. Anyhow started to get my head around their patching system/terminology so we're off to a good start.

Now that I have this console I need a source for Molex & Mini-TT Connectors for patching. Do you have any suggestions? I can DIY the cables if that will be cheaper.

here are some rough shots of the board.
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Old 21st October 2009
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Great looking board. If it sounds anywhere near my 501's, then it is amazing. I have become an Auditronics fan since buying the 501's.
Old 21st October 2009
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This was pretty well thought out hi-end console at the time. I priced and looked at a 36 input model and we're talking $70K at the time. It was the last "BIG" recording console from Auditronics as they went almost all broadcast after that.

I was heavily connected with Auditronics since my dad started working for them a year or so after they started up. I had went to Dallas for a NAB convention looking to purchase a new console. When I showed up at the Auditronics booth, Duncan Fuller was showing me the 701 console and then I went to talk price to Steve Sage (one of the two owners of the company), he kinda blew me off since he had known me since I was like 10 yrs old. So, I ended up buying a new Neve 8232 instead on the floor of the NAB (and a new Studer A820 1/2" 2 track). After we finalized the deal on the Neve, word got back to Steve that we had bought it and right then he knew he screwed up. My Dad got a bunch of "PANIC" calls from him, but it was too late. I know he lost many nights sleep over that, that's the way he was.

The 501 was called the "Son of 36 Grand" in reference to the Spectrasonics/Auditronics 20x16xx16 1020 console. I have a 1020 here which we're restoring. I have always been a fan of Auditronics stuff. Did you know the mic transformers on the original 501 were $5 doorbell transformers (potted in a metal can), somehow wired backwards? I think Auditronics actually got a patent on that circuit. Steve knew how to squeeze the buffalo **** out of a nickle.

You get out all the bugs and you'll be very happy with that board, trust me.
Old 21st October 2009
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Do you know is there any good parts source for the Auditroncs stuff?
Old 21st October 2009
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Don't know if you already found this or not but here are some numbers for the company that took over Auditronics.

They are called Lightner Electronics
866-239-3888
814-239-8323

They didn't have as much info & parts for the older consoles when I talked with them but it's worth a shot.

Also most of the parts are common caps resistors etc that you can find anyplace.

Also Valley People gear used the transamp opamps same as your console as far as I know so you might be able to get those from the new company that took over the valley gear? I don't recall their name but do a search on here and you'll find it.


Old 21st October 2009
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If anyone's interested I have a short loaded 14-channel Auditronics 501 that I'd like to sell. Pick-up-only, Bay Area. PM me.
Old 22nd October 2009
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Do you know is there any good parts source for the Auditroncs stuff?
I have been told that I can go through what's left of the company stock, but have not done so yet. I have no clue what's there, it's all stored in a barn here in Mississippi, but from what I know about it, it's not your normal barn, stuff should be in good shape. The conversations I had with the owner of this stuff is that it's mostly documentation. I will probably get to this stuff sometime next spring, doubt it will be before then.
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I talked to a man some years back that worked at Auditronics and he told me that when the company folded they threw a bunch of boxes of parts out like the inductors for the 110 and 501 etc.. Makes me sick to think of it..

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