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Originally Posted by alphajerk
well that i agree with... but i would call "low end" people simply inexperienced, or untrained.... instead of low end.... entry level? **** i dunno.
Yeah, I dunno...call it what you want. I have plenty of low-end gear in my room that I like and use all the time. But yeah...IMHO this isn't the forum for people to come in and ask a basic question.
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BUT what IF some guy with name and credits simply wanted to take this guys project simply as a challenge? what if right now they are so far in teh black they COULD do it w/o justification.... just hypothetical.
That would be AMAZING!!! But lets face it, the chances of that happening are slim to none. Not impossible, but not probable either. From where I sit, all I want is to hear better records and not see people get funked over in the process. I talked to a guy a few weeks ago who's looking for someone to mix his record. I asked who the other cats are, and there were a couple of names he mentioned where I can honestly say that although I'd rather mix it and I think I'll do the best job, I really don't mind losing the gig to the other guys because I know that the mixes and the record won't suck. It's about putting my personal ego aside for the greater good. But at the same time, I'm NOT going to drop my pants to get a gig and because that doesn't help ANYONE.
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the conundrum i see however [especially in TODAYS enviroment] is having name and credit certainly doesnt justify any talent other than marketing and bull**** for the most part... and propogating crappy music most should be shot, and NONE are worth the inflated prices they charge. maybe that is because the guys i respect through time arent the ones who marketed themselves taking advantage of the willingness to put bands heavily into debt.... i have heard too many great albums done by meager means to argue against that way being the only way towards success. of course, there are many more reasons...
Are you honestly telling me that you'd turn down $25-40K for two weeks of work to mix a record? Keep in mind that the $40K is being spread out...the assistent gets a cut, the mix room gets a cut, the mix AE gets the biggest cut. And keep in mind that we're talking about records with a budget of $100 to $500K. IMHO, that's WAY too much money to make a record, but it's NOTHING in comparison to what a label will FORCE a band to spend on a single video.
And yeah...I've had friends that mixed killer records on a Smackie or whatever...but this conversation isn't really about that aspect, the tools. It's about pro's charging what they're worth. This IS a service industry.
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but "high end" aside from being a state of mind has little to do with what they charge people. nor does simply owning "high end" [which i see more as no compromise] gear mean anything really. or tchad blake would be out of a career of driving costs of low end gear through the roof.
But Tchad Blake IS high end LOL
Man, like I said...it's about charging what your skills are worth in a market. Recording is a service industry, just like auto mechanics. Would you take your car to a $20 mechanic and expect it to be right?