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API 525 or EL Distressor / bass drum
Old 3rd August 2005
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API 525 or EL Distressor / bass drum

Hi !

I really plan to get the following gear :

- 2 channels of BAE 312a mic pres

- 2 channels of API 512c mic pres

- 2 API 550b EQ

All that racked into a BAE 6 slots lunchbox.

I guess it will allow me a lots of possibilities when it comes to the drum recording.
I already own a Mindprint DTC that I use for overheads with AKG C414s.
I'd like to use the 4 pres for the bass drum (2 mics) and the snare (2 mics).
The EQs will be used for the snare and bd too.

I got a DBX 160X compressor which is very useful, and can match on a lots of sources. I currently use it for bass, sd, bd, and vocals sometimes...

What I really need is a compressor that can be used for the kick drum. I wonder if the Distressor will do the work better than an API 525. By searching a little through those forums, EL8 Distressor looks to be one of the favorite comp used for the bass drum, and the API more vocal/bass oriented.
Can you confirm that ?
Are there other products that can match for the bass drum ? I most often record some metal/rock stuff and I do like kicks like Rammstein, Deftones, Dream Theater, Red Hot Chili Peppers etc...
By the way do you think my lunchbox settings are good ?

Thanks to you all
Old 3rd August 2005
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What do you want with compressing the bassdrum?
- shave of transients?
- get snap?
- get booming lowend?
- just lower the loudes peaks a little?

Greetings,
Dirk
Old 3rd August 2005
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Hi Dirk !

I usually use 2 mics for the bass drum, which are :
- Shure Beta 91
- AKG D112

I love that boomy sound, with a little 5-6 khz boost for the attack.

I only can afford one Distressor for the moment, and I guess I'll use it on the Beta ****>API 512c pre=>API 550b EQ.
I hate the Beta 91 low meds and I usually cut them with the EQ.
I won't compress the D112 when recording.

What do you think of that ?
Do you have another "mic solution" for that kind of bd sound ?
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The 525 doesn't exactly suck on bassdrum but it really only gets you one sound and the slow attack and HP in the detector on the distressor is quite nice. The 525 also is easy to crap out. The distressor is much more forgiving. Also try no compressor!
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A compressor that every studio gets is the UREI 1176. Does it work as fine as the Distressor ?
My DBX 160X that use on the snare drum is very good, and maybe i'd buy another one for the bass drum ?
Old 3rd August 2005
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I use the 525 in place of the 1176 cause I know my 525 won't crap out, but I understand why someone would think the 525 craps out, you need to work that box unlike a distressor where you can be blind and get something musical to come out.
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I use the 525 in place of the 1176 cause I know my 525 won't crap out, but I understand why someone would think the 525 craps out, you need to work that box unlike a distressor where you can be blind and get something musical to come out.
The 525 distorts low frequencies quite a bit.
Old 3rd August 2005
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Hey, audioez; I sent you a PM about 525s.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbuntz
The 525 distorts low frequencies quite a bit.
YES, so filter those feq out and whalla....
Old 4th August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SLy_drums
Hi !

What I really need is a compressor that can be used for the kick drum.
i would check out the drawmer 1968 as well in that application.
good luck,
joshua
Old 4th August 2005
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Quote:
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Hey, audioez; I sent you a PM about 525s.

Rock and roll is distortion...
Old 4th August 2005
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I think the 160X is great. I somtimes like to take the inside kick in with no compression. And then the outside kick with a little bit of my 160VU. It keeps the subs from getting too out of hand. But be careful... You don't want to hit it too hard. Just tap it! I have two distressors as well and the work wonderfully. That's a different sound. There just something about the transformer in the 160VU. And if you're into a boomy sound, you might want to check one out. It's just got a tone. Way more bottom the 160X. Good luck.
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