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I need to konw boomy songs !!
Old 1st August 2005
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I need to konw boomy songs !!

Hello

Mastering boys

Please tell me artist and song that do you think are boomy...(tittles cd)

I bouthg a subwoofer and I need know the correct balance

I made several measures with pink noise but you know the final decisitions is your ears

Regards
Old 2nd August 2005
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massive attack _mezzanine_ has the most controlled boom i've ever heard.

seal's _human being_ has some boomy tracks too, especially the title track.

morcheeba's _who can you trust_ isn't boomy, but it's deeeeeep and perfectly balanced.

i'm not a mastering guy, but i am a master, if that helps .


gregoire
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Old 2nd August 2005
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I always make sure D'Angelo's 'Voodoo' sounds good; then I know I'm close.

I'm not a mastering guy either, but I'm a master-something...







uh...


never mind.
Old 2nd August 2005
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Anything by The Prodigy.

And Amon Tobin's stuff has that gorgeous room-shaking sub-bass of doom...
Old 2nd August 2005
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ok boys

more references?
Old 2nd August 2005
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Maxwell's "Embrya".

Linkin Park's "Meteora".
Old 2nd August 2005
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Originally Posted by thethrillfactor
Maxwell's "Embrya".
Yeah, that one is insainly bassy..... will shake both your room and the neighbours down the street...
Old 2nd August 2005
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Flaming Lips "The Soft Bulitin"

There's some insane but wonderful deep bass on that record.
Old 3rd August 2005
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ha i know one song where bass track is too damn loud :
U2 - If You Wear That Velvet Dress (from POP album )

also Yello - The Eye cd (2003) - 50 hertz area is uhm too much for some cheap home speaker wannabees ,but plays extremely nice on audiophile or good monitor speakers .Risky amount of deep bass .

i'll try to remember some more ,meanwhile check out star wars 3 or terminator 3 movies - how the hell these guys manage to pack all that rumble into poor dvd
Old 3rd August 2005
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alright, time to drop the drawers and get anal.

when i think of 'boomy', i think of plenty of 120 to go with my 60, hits that are heard as much as felt. lots of records are bass heavy but not boomy to my ears.

boomy is loose, it blooms and swells out in a barely controlled way. deeper bass is generally more controlled feeling, hits me in the gut rather than the chest.

okay, clearly, i am bored.


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Old 3rd August 2005
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Sounds like you know your electronic music, ubik.

I've been searching for the perfect reference CD for my current electro/rock project. We're doing all programmed drums and some heavy synth lines with mostly synth bass. Looking for a tight, big low end, without getting toooo "boomy".

You mentioned Morcheeba....I'll check that out. I've been listening to Mezzanine. Were you saying you think it's too boomy? Or just about right? What about Prodigy "Fat of the Land"?

I was listening to some Chem Brothers and Crystal Method the other day and comparing the low end of those to "Fat of the Land". The first two had plenty of low end but seemed much more undefined and diffuse than the Prodigy stuff. Probably due to the lack of higher freq content along with the 60Hz range as you mentioned.

Any more reference suggestions for ultimate tight low end?
Old 3rd August 2005
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well, the morcheeba and massive attack i mentioned are two of my three go-to ref cd's, both for mixing and for tuning rooms. the third is beck's _odelay_.

mezzanine is just on the threshold of too boomy, but it's perfect. it lets me know exactly where that line is, and the bass sounds big on small systems. also, it has the most compression i'd ever want, so if my mix is more squashed i need to back off. oddly enough, my last mix was way over that line, so a remix is in the pipeline.

the morcheeba has some of the sweetest, deepest, creamiest moog basslines ever. make sure you get _who can you trust_, it sounds like a big old neve or trident with gorgeous, soft hi's and a creamy mids. their subsequent records sound like a big old pro tools rig, hard and claustrophobic. a lot of that is arrangement too, their first record was absolutely brilliant.

the thing about the prodigy is they don't generally have moving basslines, they just have tuned hits with lots of space in between, but it's a solid low end and the effect is very punchy. if your music is more in that style, it's a good ref, as is chem bros _dig you're own hole_, which, like mezzanine, reeks of ssl compression. the music i produce tends to have more motion in the low end, which is more of a challenge to get sounding big without swamping everything else, especially vocals.

have fun my man, bass is what it's all about!


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Old 3rd August 2005
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Crystal Method

Casey;
Which Crystal Method CD / song...
Where was it done.
Paul
Old 4th August 2005
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good refences thanks

and the other extreme?

please tell me brithness songs...........
Old 4th August 2005
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Originally Posted by caseyLA
Sounds like you know your electronic music, ubik.

I've been searching for the perfect reference CD for my current electro/rock project. We're doing all programmed drums and some heavy synth lines with mostly synth bass. Looking for a tight, big low end, without getting toooo "boomy".


Look for the DVD of NIN's the "Fragile".
Old 4th August 2005
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mezzanine is just on the threshold of too boomy, but it's perfect. it lets me know exactly where that line is, and the bass sounds big on small systems.
To me personally Mezzanine wouldn't be my choice for a sonic ref.


Its great for a vibe though.

Same goes for Bjork's Homogenic(one of my favorite albums of all time).

Spike Stents mixes while really creative tend to lean on the dark and gritty side(maybe its him or the british mastering).



Quote:
Originally Posted by u b i k
also, it has the most compression i'd ever want, so if my mix is more squashed i need to back off. oddly enough, my last mix was way over that line, so a remix is in the pipeline.


gregoire
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Is this the song you used for the summing test?


How about giving some guys here a crack at it?


It be cool to here what some would do with it.


Kinda like what Trent is doing with his NIN songs.
Old 4th August 2005
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I´d not only judge by one or two songs or styles, but I´d make sure to have a selection of different recordings in different musical styles to check your balance and make it fit for every style.

Some examples I use for this purpose might be...

Seal "Love´s devine" - very nice subbass when the strings come in

Anything from the Aaron Neville album "Warm your heart" - not boomy at all, but a very nice balance

Linkin Park "Papercut"

Justin Timberlake "I feel for you"

Metallica "Black Album"

Snoop "Drop it like it´s hot" or "Girl like you"

Diana Krall "I´ve changed my address"

Thicke "When I get you alone" - IMO near to perfect kick / bass relation

50 Cent "In my hood" - there you have your boomy bass

Regards,
Bill
Old 4th August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thethrillfactor
Same goes for Bjork's Homogenic(one of my favorite albums of all time).
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Old 22nd August 2005
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and the other side?

any references about edgy songs?


thanks
Old 22nd August 2005
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Goldie's Timeless is pretty friggin boomie.
Old 22nd August 2005
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Massive Attack - Protection.
Soul II Soul - club classics vol. one

many movie soundtracks have a high level deep sea department
Old 17th October 2005
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hi boyz

any muddy song for references?

thanks

muddy and eddgy woulb be fine
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