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The Cure.
Old 5th September 2005
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bump

nice thread

just wanna see if anybody has more to add
Old 5th September 2005
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I remember an interview of the owner of Miraval studio (beautiful studio in the south of France where Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, AC/DC...recorded) in which he says that it was amazing to follow the making of "KISS ME KISS ME"... one wouldn't be able to understand the purpose of recording so many funny sounding, out-of-tune and out-of-sync guitar parts, until he heard the final result.
In those days of "everything dead on" I'm sure there's some to learn from that...

"The edge of the deep green sea" on 'Wish' anyone?

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Old 6th September 2005
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I must admit that I was a Cure geek in high school back in the late 80s. When I heard "Head on the Door" I was hooked. "Pornagraphy" is most definetly their best album, with "Faith" and "Disintergration" comin up a close second.

I think what most people miss in their music is the lyrical content. Which is some of the best ever written in contemporary music. Some of it is morbid, but some of it is quite silly also. Plus, noone writes a lovesong better then Robert Smith.
Old 6th September 2005
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Well Bob knows the gear and the sounds he likes, but he seems to be a particularly unslutty sort of person. I remember an interview in which he said he'd much prefer it if all the gear he used only had three settings: Mostly off, Halfway, and Full On. If he doesn't hear anything he likes with three moves of the knob...it's outta there.

heh
Old 16th October 2007
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Does anyone know how they went about getting those tones from the guitars in Friday Im in love? What guitars did Robert use at this time? What effects did he like to use?
Old 16th October 2007
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bumped from the grave... I'm interested too. Haven't they been around for nearly 30 years now? Got hooked on the Kiss Me album in 7th grade (endlessly in my walkman while on our running unit in gym)... whenever I hear Disintegration's "same deep water as you" I am instantly transported to the end of a night of high school drinking with my band's old lead singer making out with some girl I had a crush on, right there in the next sleeping bag... Disintegration and lip smacking on repeat... all night. Oh the humanity. Robert Smith, I'm not sure what the connection is, but I'll be scarred for life.


...pretend you're asleep, just pretend you're asleep...
Old 16th October 2007
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I would love to hear about equipment & techniques used in those sessions though... Kiss Me (such diverse sounds & songs) & Disintegration (such a dark and solid album start to finish).
Old 16th October 2007
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found this great interview

Guitar Player interview
Old 16th October 2007
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They were recording in Parkgate Studio's in England not so long ago, Robert lives in this neck of the woods so I dare say it was convienient. Never really got them myself and a friend of mine who is a very good engineer and a cool dude couldn't get on with Robert at all.

Regards


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Old 16th October 2007
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He mentions a chet atkins guitar as being a big part of his sound at that time.

I wonder if its the Gibson Chet Atkins Country Gentleman.
I wonder if this chain here is that sound. (The sound I am after is that plucky almost harp like sound in friday im in love)..

guitargeek | robert smith of cure
Old 16th October 2007
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I seem to remember reading something about some prototype "drum pickups" that they used to record with... so they could get the drums with no ambience....
Old 16th October 2007
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Does anyone know how they went about getting those tones from the guitars in Friday Im in love? What guitars did Robert use at this time? What effects did he like to use?
This album screams of E series SSL..... and loads of FX... i really like that song and quite a few other tunes from that album. I think marksaunders has a website somewhere.. who knows he may lurk here!??

Cheers
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Old 16th October 2007
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Im starting to think that opening lick in 'Friday I'm in love' is possibly a synth. The way its played and the sound. What does anyone else think?
Old 16th October 2007
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The Mike Hedges albums "seventeen seconds"faith" are my faves.As someone mentioned the EMI console earlier,It was on those two albums.I read somewhere they used contact mikes on the drums for those albums.A couple songs sound like the early LM-1 drum computer(rare) or the Movement drum computer(extreemly rare)see.....David Kulka's Studio Electronics- Services: UREI

I also read that they created drum tape loops from scratch on the multitrack and then they would creat ea sub mix onto another 2inch 16track multitrack.Then the rest of the intruments went down and they'd overdub fills as needed.Flood gets a thank you in the credits.Amazing moods indeed.
Old 16th October 2007
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Some studio footage setting up and recording the self-titled album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uEPii6VgJQ

The Mike Hedges interview was good. Wish I could read more about the recordings of Seventeen Seconds, Faith, and Pornography. Some of my favorite albums.
Old 18th October 2007
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Old 18th October 2007
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Ok , not a synth. I'm starting to think Robert used an electric banjo through effects for a lot of those sound on Wish
Old 18th October 2007
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heaps of fender VI (pictured above) doing all the melody stuff. Its like a guitar but tuned an octave lower (EADGBE) (unlike a modern day six string bass which is BEADGC)
One of my absolute favorite aspects of the Cure. Such an amazing sound.
Old 18th October 2007
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I thought that it was cool that before Wish was released you could listen to it in select planetariums around the country.
Old 18th October 2007
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bumped from the grave... I'm interested too. Haven't they been around for nearly 30 years now? Got hooked on the Kiss Me album in 7th grade (endlessly in my walkman while on our running unit in gym)... whenever I hear Disintegration's "same deep water as you" I am instantly transported to the end of a night of high school drinking with my band's old lead singer making out with some girl I had a crush on, right there in the next sleeping bag... Disintegration and lip smacking on repeat... all night. Oh the humanity. Robert Smith, I'm not sure what the connection is, but I'll be scarred for life.


...pretend you're asleep, just pretend you're asleep...

Wow. Sounds familiar to me, except I was shroomin to "pictures of you" (on repeat) making out with two chicks on my buddies bed. Good times! Oh and I've been a huge fan since Head on the door. Anybody heard that "unplugged" album? That was fantastic.
Old 11th December 2009
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like my rush thread, i am curious if anyone knows what they recorded with through the ages, what gear they used etc...

I am a huge Cure freak. I like all the stuff. all time periods..

I especially want to know about pornography, and faith the most.. those are my two favorite records...

I want know about their gear, guitars, amps, recording gear, mixers, fx etc... mics... anyone got a clue?
I have read a couple of places that the drum machine used on Pornography was a Boss DR-55 Dr. Rhythm:
Cure, The (Robert Smith): Drum Machine 82-83?, carnage visors, virtual boss
Vintage Synth Explorer - BOSS DR-55 Dr. Rhythm (in the comments section)
Apparently, the Sisters of Mercy also used a DR-55.
The re-issue of Pornography has some really good info about the recording of the album (nothing about the gear though). Apparently, there were all completely wasted during the recording of that album. And then, during the tour for that album Smith and Gallup got into a fist fight on stage.
Old 11th December 2009
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rem - i really liked them at first - i bought the first ep "chronic town" and i liked
it - after that they gradually became one of the most over-rated bands of all
time - really dull, not a great singer - to me they will be remembered as
a way to make yuppies feel hip - wow - rem - pretty far out - same thing
with that horrible, horrible natalie merchant woman


lol-I'm glad I'm not the only one who totally cringes when that girl sings. OMG! What's up with her voice?!
Old 5th August 2010
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Fascination Street synth/guitar seagull sound??

Anyone know what the hell that is?
Old 6th August 2010
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Oh my, The Cure....

A Forest was the first song I heard on a friend's mix tape, must have been 16 or so, and I was hooked instantly. Ended up learning it and singing (while playing bass) with my band at the time, it was one of the few covers we did.

Then a british friend of mine had turned me on to more of their stuff, a lot of B-Sides and 12' singles, so many great songs that never made it to the albums (The Exploding Boy, Man Inside My Mouth, etc.), then we proceed to watch a double concert shot in Liverpool, circa 1981, on VHS, with Siouxsie and The Banshees and The Cure. About halfway into the first song, I notice a striking resemblance between the guitarist for The Banshees and Robert Smith. Sure enough, it was him, I had no idea that he was actually part of the Banshees for a few years, then he would get off the stage and come back with The Cure a few minutes later as the leading man. Trippy...

The Cure is timeless for me, so many great memories, and their shows were always brilliant. Some will argue that they just stand there and don't do much, but that isn't the point, it's about the energy, the intensity, the light show, Robert's howling voice which punches you in the gut on the opening song, the brilliant guitar work and melodies. I still vividly remember the seeing them in Montreal during the Desintegration tour in 1989, and the opener "Plain Song", which sent chills that ran through my entire body.

It may not be my favorite song of theirs, but objectively speaking, perhaps one of the absolute greatest pop songs ever written in the 80's would be, imo, "Just like Heaven", in terms of melodies, lyrics and arrangement, it's just brilliant.

I think 'Jumping Someone Else's Train' tops my list of favorite Cure tracks, but heck, there are so many great ones...
Old 6th August 2010
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I know a few things about their recordings... newer stuff would have used Cubase or Logic synced to tape for extra keyboard parts. I know on Disintegration there was a lot of Prophet 2000 sampler. Presumably doing a lot of strings. Live piano. Not sure how much it made it on that record or bloodflowers but Roger O'Donnell owns a bunch of classic sequential and moog keyboards and was invovled in those two records.

Obviously there are certain guitars you can see Smith using throughout the years. Gretch, Guild 12 string, Fender VI six string bass. Lots and lots of boss pedals.
Old 6th August 2010
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