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Originally Posted by Jay Kahrs
Here's some food for thought...
1 & 2) Most soffits contain passive monitors in either a sealed or open back enclosure and if your gonna do it right, the amps, EQ's and PSU's are located in a separate machine room. The idea is that once the monitors go in they don't come back out until you rip them outta the wall.
Right... that's why I was thinking passive S3s or taking the Amps off the back of the 1031s.
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2a) Have you heard the S3A's and mixed on them? Are you sure that they're your dream speaker? Whuddaya gonna do if you sink them into the wall and you HATE them?? They're pretty much the polar opposite to your Genelec's.
Good point... also why I'm asking the question about S3s in the wall. I may not like them, but I'm sick of my Genelecs and want something that's better for pure translation. I've been fighting these things for years. Maybe there's something better for my application, and maybe I should attempt to build my soffits in a way that will allow for a least sort of easy change over.
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3 & 4) These act as a pair to decouple the speaker from the wall AND support the weight. And somewhere in there you need to think about the finish treatment of the wall.
Right. That's not totally worked out yet... finish will probably just be the last drywall layer, with the frame around the speaker set in, so the the wall is flush with the front of the speaker.
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5) You still need to think about where the reflections are going to land. Not just off the console, but off the ceiling and the walls...and where are the 2nd order reflections going to land?
Agreed. Splayed walls, and ceiling clouds, etc... Big fat bass traps in the back, so no slap off the back wall.
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6) Plan the room so it's pretty much future proofed. Expandability and room to grow, not just more gear but the infrastructure...cabling troughs and access panels. What if...five years from now when everyone sells off their 8078's for $20K so they can get the latest plug-in that emulates said console, you decide to put a real console into the room?
Trust me on this...building soffits sounds a bit easier then it actually is if you want to do it right.
Well, this I believe. Precisely why I'm asking the questions. I'm fine with not having soffits if it's not worth the trouble. But there are an awful lot of people saying that soffit mounting is great. Actually, I'm finding that everything sounds easier than it is for the entire project. I'm doing my best to think about all that stuff, but at the same time, I can't afford to plan for months and months. I need to work in that room soon.
I mean sheesh, no soffits will save time and money. But if I can be a better mixer with good monitors in the wall then I should probably look into it.
Regardless, thanks a bunch for your time and thoughts... any more help is appreciated MUCH!