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Old 24th July 2005
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Just great gear

Disclaimer: I am in NO WAY affiliated with any of the manufacturers mentioned below, nor do I get any compensation for my opinion, I just like the equipment and feel I have to pass it on to the gearslutz community.

Major kudos to Tim at SCA for coming up with a great box. I have now used the A12, N72 and C84 extensively on tracking and overdubbing and I find myself more and more picking those units over other pres in my selection. Don't get me wrong, all my pres are seeing lots of use, but I am constantly amazed by what the SCA does on various sources and how in some cases it replaces the "usual go-to" units. A nice fresh breeze of pres at my studio and for an incredible price. If you have a chance check them out, they're worth it. thumbsup thumbsup

And while we are on the subject of raving about gear, I don't see a lot of people talking about the GreatRiver EQ. I find it to be one of the most musical EQs I have in my racks and it has seen more use (on the EQ front) than any other unit, besides the Massive Passive (which normally just sits on the stereo buss). Does anybody else have experience with the GR EQ? Thoughts?

I also have to mention my Royer R-121s again. They constantly blow away any other mic on electric guitar cabs.

Another great box is the TabFunkenwerk V71 DI box. It actually got picked over the VIPRE DI (which is a first) for bass on the HYDROGYN sessions.

It's weird how one gets used to a set of equipment being the "standard" or "go-to" for a recording/mixing session. Then once in a while something comes along that topples the throne. What are some of your new toys err... tools that see use over the old faithfuls in your studio?
Old 24th July 2005
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What are some of your new toys err... tools that see use over the old faithfuls in your studio?
I second the SCA stuff, the A12s at least. I got 7 of them and I am amazed at how... nice they sound. I can't stop talking about them actually.

The other thing that has just blown me away has been my upgrade to ADAM S2A. I have used a lot of speakers in my days, NS10's, Tannoy, KRK, Genelec, Mackie, Event NOTHING has ever sound this accurate. Others have sounded "better" but not nearly as accurate. Hands down between these and my RealTraps nothing has effected my mixes is such a positive way before.
Old 24th July 2005
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Hi Michael,

How have you been?
I know it's been awhile since we last spoke but.....

I would like to try and change your mind on a few items
you just spoke of.

Please let me know what your time is like on the 29/30th of this month cause, I will be flying into Nashville.
And I will have some units that may be of interest to you.

Take care,
Peter Montessi
A Designs Audio
Old 24th July 2005
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Hi Michael,

How have you been?
I know it's been awhile since we last spoke but.....
Will you be attending the Blackbird Studio party next weekend?

If so I would like to try and change your mind on a few items
you just spoke of.

Please let me know what your time is like on the 29/30th of this month cause, I will be flying into Nashville.
And I will have some units that may be of interest to you.

Take care,
Peter Montessi
A Designs Audio
Hello Peter

great to hear from you. I will be in session on those days, I don't think I can get out. Give me a call when you're in town, maybe we can get together before the session starts.
Old 24th July 2005
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[SIZE=3][B]I also have to mention my Royer R-121s again. They constantly blow away any other mic on electric guitar cabs.
Michael,
Have you had the opportunity to use the AEA R92 on electric guitar cabs?
Old 24th July 2005
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Michael,
Have you had the opportunity to use the AEA R92 on electric guitar cabs?
Not yet. I used the 84 and I liked the sound but in order to stay safe, I had to place it too far away from the cabinet for my taste. The 84s made great room mics.
Old 24th July 2005
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Hello Peter

great to hear from you. I will be in session on those days, I don't think I can get out. Give me a call when you're in town, maybe we can get together before the session starts.
Same here Michael,

That sounds like a plan! I know there will be a ton of stuff to do on our end as well.

Hope we can hook up.........see you there Michael.

Peter Montessi
A Designs Audio
Old 24th July 2005
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Originally Posted by mwagener
Not yet. I used the 84 and I liked the sound but in order to stay safe, I had to place it too far away from the cabinet for my taste. The 84s made great room mics.
I have an R88 and feel the same way about that mic. Too far back on git cabs, great room mic.
I'm looking at the Royers. I have experience with the 121. Never used the 122. Any big difference you've noticed?
I'm looking forward to Lynn Fuston's Ribbon CD. I want to hear them all.
Old 24th July 2005
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Not yet. I used the 84 and I liked the sound but in order to stay safe, I had to place it too far away from the cabinet for my taste. The 84s made great room mics.
C'mon, Michael! What's this about 'playing safe'? I've used my R84's 2 inches from the grill of an AC30 (set to stun), a vintage Celestion in a Mesa 2x12 cabinet (with the Randall modular system cranked all the way), and both my B15 and an old Deluxe. And when they're not used on guitar amps, both of my R84's live about 2 inches out from the horns on a Leslie cab.

The only issue I've had is that when you're that close, the proximity effect can be a little overwhelming, but a high pass takes care of that.

Just do it - the worst that will happen is that you'll have to send them back to Wes for re-ribboning. And maybe you'll have to listen to Wes yell at you for misusing his mics...
Old 24th July 2005
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Atomic Squeezebox by: Innertube Audio

I find myself using the Atomic Squeezebox on a lot of applications. It is a great compressor for Mastering, Bass guitar, and second (last in chain) compressor for vocals. It has taken the place of the LA2A for most of my limiting needs, as well as making for a great mix bus compressor. It is by far the best vocal limiter I have encountered. If you like color, put another compressor in front of it and use it to limit. It has "the magic." Expensive, but a great buy for what it can do.

DW Fearn EQ

I originally preordered this box before it came out. I was not blown away at first, due to the lack of surgical ability (even for a pultec style EQ). I have gotten to know it, and using it in conjunction with another equaliser (API, Neve, pultec, etc.) has been my way of life recently. Adding +3db on the output stage is great for beefing things up. The Fearn tube buffer is huge!! So, I am wanting a few more now!!!! I prefer it over most if not all original Pultecs I have used! Again, Very expensive, but worth every cent.

Pendulum Quartet 2

Wow. The ultimate all-in-one box. Wow. Did I say WOW? Low price (IMHO) for all the features you get with it!!
Old 24th July 2005
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Josephson e22s. Great on OH, drum close mic'ing, acoustic and electric guitars, upright bass, piano, etc. I want more Josephsons now...
Old 24th July 2005
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Originally Posted by Dave Martin
C'mon, Michael! What's this about 'playing safe'? I've used my R84's 2 inches from the grill of an AC30 (set to stun), a vintage Celestion in a Mesa 2x12 cabinet (with the Randall modular system cranked all the way), and both my B15 and an old Deluxe. And when they're not used on guitar amps, both of my R84's live about 2 inches out from the horns on a Leslie cab.

The only issue I've had is that when you're that close, the proximity effect can be a little overwhelming, but a high pass takes care of that.

Just do it - the worst that will happen is that you'll have to send them back to Wes for re-ribboning. And maybe you'll have to listen to Wes yell at you for misusing his mics...

heh heh heh
Somehow I have the feeling that YOUR players and MY players have a slightly different understanding of "set to stun". If I'm not mistaken, the AC30 is a 30W amp, the Randall with a 2x12 has 50watts and the B15 has 15W. Now, my ENGL alone has a peak output of 300watts. I can't walk into the room when all those amps are blasting, even with shooting headphones on, I get sick to my stomach from the sheer sound pressure. On the positive side, we don't have any bugs or rodents in that room
heh

Seriously, when testing the 84 I had it about a foot from the cabinet and it still had slight overload distortion (no pun) which was enhanced when using the needed high end eq. I love the mic for it's great 3D sound, as a room mic or sources like percussion or overheads (with a little hi eq), but for MY type of guitars it wasn't as useful as the R121.
Old 24th July 2005
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Josephson e22s. Great on OH, drum close mic'ing, acoustic and electric guitars, upright bass, piano, etc. I want more Josephsons now...
Loved those Josephsons on toms (over and under). Unfortunately for 4 toms one would need 8 mics, there goes another vacation...
Old 24th July 2005
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Loved those Josephsons on toms (over and under). Unfortunately for 4 toms one would need 8 mics, there goes another vacation...
Arrgh--don't I know it. They gave me the best tom sound I've ever heard, but I (literally) can't afford to use them that way.

Even though most people seem to use them as spot mics for drums, I think they really shine on overheads as well.
Old 24th July 2005
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We also used the 22 on an old Gibson acoustic from about 4 feet away, sounded great.
Old 25th July 2005
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New stuff I got:

Adam S3a's
Have them about 2 months now and just finished mixing the first album on it.
Unbelievable translation. I have been dead on in the reverb/delay/FX or basic front to depth imaging department. Not one change of snare reverb or vocal delay/reverb on one of the 10th mixes after the first real world check... For the first time I'm able to eq the kick and bass and hear what I'm actually doing. Again, of the 10 mixes I did, about half of them needed no corretion after the first mix.
My monitor lust is over....

Buzz audio mono equalizer (MPE 1.1 ?)
Just got it two weeks ago and used it on bass guitar in 3 mixes and on vocals in one mix. Awesome eq. Not too much colour, but great high-end and it tightens up the bass nicely. The eq really helps to get a more focussed center imaging and adds some nice depth. I like it, but will be researching it on snare and kick a lot more in the coming weeks. It will be my main tracking eq on the next two projects, so I'll get to know it a little better. From my first impressons though It's definitely a highend unit.

TG2 on guitars
I have this one for about two years. I could be happy recording complete rock albums with 312's as the only pre, but letting the TG2 go on dirt guitar sessions would be hard to do. I does something with the harmonics and I don't know exactly what, but a good sounding cab, sm57 or R121 through the TG2 and I don't need to do anything else than perhaps a little high and low pass during mixing...

Greetings,
Dirk

P.S. Next purchase will be the Tubetech CL1B. I used one a couple years ago and after playing very shortly with one at Chris Lambregts' place I realised I want one again for vocals and bass...
Old 25th July 2005
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I've been using my TC Electronic Reverb 4000 for about a week now. Absolutely killer verb. Makes convolution obsolete (mostly). Seriously I did a shoot out with a Lex300, PCM91 and KSP8, and the TC was on another planet as far as depth and clarity, and richness.
Old 25th July 2005
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I just got my Mercury M72S, an 8-Channel rack of SCA N72's, and a Chandler TG2. I got some drum tones today and all I can say is that I certainly picked the right preamps. The Mercury on drum overheads is the smoothest, tastiest preamp for that application imaginable IMHO. The TG2 saw use on snare top and the N72's got the toms, kick, snare bottom, 2nd kick mic, and hi hat. The N72's are just great. The kick drum was so huge with an Audix D6 and Yamaha subkick that I couldn't believe what I was hearing out of my S3A's ( best monitors ever ). I have one hell of a tracking setup. I also was using Distressors on kick and snare and Avenson STO-2's as room mics going into a Chandler TG1 limiter. I couldn't be happier with my setup, except for this damned defective Gefell UM900...
Old 25th July 2005
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TG channel,Royers,R 84's[unfortunately, I sold em this week ..need $$ for other mixing pieces]MP..
but lately..The Thermionic Phoenix comp..
Everything comes out the other end Mo' bigger and better.
Old 25th July 2005
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[QUOTE=mwagener][SIZE=3][B]I also have to mention my Royer R-121s again. They constantly blow away any other mic on electric guitar cabs.QUOTE]

Hi Michael,

I have recorded electric guitar cabs with a Royer R-122. I liked it a lot and I´m planning to buy one on December. The problem is that I´ve never A/B the 122 with a 121. Wich one do you think will give a better result?

One more question...

When u mic the cabinets, do you use ONLY the Royers?

Thanx,

PUPO
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Old 25th July 2005
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Originally Posted by Jamz
Michael,
Have you had the opportunity to use the AEA R92 on electric guitar cabs?
I have the R92, and have been really disappointed in the guitar cabinet sound, the R121 just blows it away for clarity. As Michael mentions, there is just too much distortion and fuzz that I don't like as well as the R121.

I had really high expectations for the R92, since everyone seems to be talking about them so much, and obviously, I have great respect for Wes Dooley and the gang, it just wasn't the sound for me.

I am returning it to the shop this week.
Old 25th July 2005
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P.S. Next purchase will be the Tubetech CL1B. I used one a couple years ago and after playing very shortly with one at Chris Lambregts' place I realised I want one again for vocals and bass...

Hey Dirk,

Don't forget a set of Mullard tubes for your CL1B as well.
Old 25th July 2005
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youre not kidding. that GR EQ2NV is the ****!
Old 25th July 2005
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Hey Dirk,

Don't forget a set of Mullard tubes for your CL1B as well.
yeah yeah yeah, I read both you and Brian Lucey agree about it so shamelessly I'll figure in the cost of some additional tubes .

When trying the CL1B recently, I forgot how fast it attacks and how nicely it deals with sibillance and transients on difficult vocals. You may know by now I'm the Distressor lover himself, but there actually are situations where the Distressor does not shine on vocals (can't believe I'm actually admitting that here ).
heh
Greetings,
Dirk
Old 25th July 2005
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Adam S3a's
Have them about 2 months now and just finished mixing the first album on it.
Unbelievable translation. I have been dead on in the reverb/delay/FX or basic front to depth imaging department. Not one change of snare reverb or vocal delay/reverb on one of the 10th mixes after the first real world check... For the first time I'm able to eq the kick and bass and hear what I'm actually doing. Again, of the 10 mixes I did, about half of them needed no corretion after the first mix.
My monitor lust is over....
Greetings,
Dirk
So am I in good standings for getting some? Is your monitor lust over cause you've found your love? Just ordered them... Should be here in another day...
Tim
Old 25th July 2005
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Stuff that has been through here recently that I would like to own one day soon... but dont right now..

Audix D6 kick mic
Josephson e22s mic - used it on snare & loved it
Buzz Soc compressor
Buzz 2.1 mic pre's

Old 25th July 2005
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Every horn player who comes through here has wanted an R84 after they hear themselves recorded with it. I've posted it a zillion times in the PSW forums, but I also use the R84 on piano all the time in M/S in combination with a CMV563 with the M55k omni capsule as the M.



I also love the Purple 1176 clones and the Daking 52270.

I heard a rumor that Inward Connections is going to have somebody start manufacturing the Vac Rac modules for them again, which would be amazing. I'd love to have another two compressors. Definitely my favorite compressor I own, and my go to vocal mic pre. The passive tube EQs are insane, too. You can not make a bad sound with them.
Old 25th July 2005
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Originally Posted by phunkyt
Is your monitor lust over cause you've found your love?
Yes

The guessing game is over .

Have fun with your new speakers and report back after you did some serious mixing .

Good luck,
Dirk
Old 25th July 2005
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I want some ADAMs. I'm about to wind up wiyth an extra car. Maybe I'll sell it and get some S3As. LOL.
Old 25th July 2005
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This is the real baby neve, originally designed for mastering and tape transfer...Now it has a life in the music business as a kick snare box, and g_d knows what else!

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