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Originally Posted by paterno
You say you mean no harm by your comments, but you always seem to piss people off.
'Always' is a generalization people use when they're upset. Please calm down. Are you really "pissed off"? I thought this was a discussion.
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What is so valid about how a band wishes to let out information? Or how they wish to create their music? A truly open society needs to respect the wishes and 'rights' of others, regardless if they are famous or not. We have no 'right' to that information unless they are working for us. Buying a record does not make them an employee!
Hey man, I agree with you 100% .... but this is America. The land of getting in everyone's business as opposed to minding to our own.
Look at Graceland ... that pop star is dead and they still line up. Look at **********s 'moral values' BS and all the laws they cook up. Look at the checkout line magazines. It's everywhere.
Yet I'd hope, like you hope, that GS does not become a tabloid for band session info!
If you recall, I haven't said a word about the details of this record, I'm just looking at the principles involved in talking about ANY record here on GS. If it pisses you off to have a discussion about principles, I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe we should not commnicate, but I consider it a good thing. Not everything has to be taken "personally" in a discussion.
Clarification, mutual understanding and ethics is the goal of talking principle, not "pissing people off" as you see it. Let's stick to the principles.
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It is not a matter of national security. It's just a matter of repect to allow others to 'do their thing' without someone looking over their shoulder. I would hate for GearSlutz to start becoming the National Enquirer.
Agreed. I was just trying a little joke to put this privacy issue in perspective. Sorry to be not funny!
Yet the truth is that someone IS looking over our shoulder ... all the time. You're trying to look over mine right now for example. And Jules is looking over yours and mine as is his role, etc.
A rock band doesnt give a fuk. And if they REALLY do, they can post something on their fan sites ... as ironic as that is.
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But he's not in control. People read things, take them as fact, and propagate them to others. If the comments have a direct impact on his livelihood, his only choice is to address the rumors to stop the dis-information. And by doing so, he runs the risk of breaking a pact with his CLIENTS, the artists he works with, who have put their trust him.
John
We're all in control of choosing to respond to questions or not, and how much, and when we respond. That's actually a lot of power!
People will believe whatever crazy rumors they want and some will say what they want no matter what authority is there to say otherwise ... a band can request restraint but it's a big world and not everyone sees it as so dire or so important so you have leaks. I think GS is in fact responding to his request, as you and I are the only ones still posting. (And the guy who doesn't even like Tool who started the thread .. the tool!)
Then again, if everyone behaves ... the label leaks it for PR and sales! it's a crazy life.
Look, I get your valid points about the leaching off of fame that some people do, but you seem to think there's a powerlessness and victimization thing going on for the famous band, or their engineer. And I disagree. It's just something to deal with that comes with the territory.
The band/fan relationship is sick in many ways, but I'm sure this band has more experience than you or I in handling it.
And ultimately, if you're sensitivity is founded in reality, and if ABSOLUTE privacy is really that important for this band on this record they can afford to go to Nassau or Europe, right?
Mr. Barresi meanwhile can just ignore the lies and the truths of this or other threads, and post to clarify and/or share when he's good and ready. No big deal.
He is clearly respected here my most of us.