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Old 21st May 2019
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KM84s are 21mm diameter (measure mine this afternoon), KM184s are 22. Just been having this convo with the guy from Wilkinson Audio, trying to decide which of his bars to go for (he only does 20 or 22).
Old 21st May 2019
  #62
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Thanks (again!) Klaus

It's not terribly obvious which replacement bands are intended for use with the EA 21, but I think this is the one..

https://spares.sennheiser.co.uk/neum...ic-523778.html
Does that seem correct ?
Make sure you confirm with Sennheiser that the current EA 1 bands (576567) are identical to, and compatible with, the original EA21 bands (065417-old order number). I recently re-strung a pair of EA30 which uses the 065417- supposedly the same bands as used on EA 21.
Old 22nd May 2019
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Make sure you confirm with Sennheiser that the current EA 1 bands (576567) are identical to, and compatible with, the original EA21 bands (065417-old order number). I recently re-strung a pair of EA30 which uses the 065417- supposedly the same bands as used on EA 21.
Thanks again Klaus! This answers my question. I've contacted them and will follow up here with the answer so that all those lucky EA 21 shockmount owners will no longer have to wonder which replacement bands to use

Old 1st June 2019
  #64
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Thanks again Klaus! This answers my question. I've contacted them and will follow up here with the answer so that all those lucky EA 21 shockmount owners will no longer have to wonder which replacement bands to use


I've reached out to sennheiser spares (https://spares.sennheiser.co.uk) several times this week but so far no reply. I've also reached out to Vintage King who still have the old part number listed here (as unavailable) and said they'd reach out to Neumann and let me know:
https://vintageking.com/neumann-shoc...nds-light-grey
(listed as intended for EA 21, EA 2124, EA 30 shock mounts)


B&H and Northern Sound and Lights still list the part as available for order so I ordered a set to be safe:

https://www.northernsoundandlight.co...s/_065417.html

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...stic_Band.html

(both list the item as compatible with EA-30/82/2124 shockmounts)


I will still update here if I get any additional information on the appropriate current replacement part for EA21 bands.
Old 4th June 2019
  #65
I got an unfortunate email reply to an inquiry I made with https://spares.sennheiser.co.uk

~~~
From: Amanda Yangin <[email protected]>
Subject: 065418

Good afternoon


Further to your telephone message, I can confirm that part number 065418 has been made obsolete with no replacement.

Kind regards
~~~


As for my order with NSL, looks like the item is a drop ship direct from Neumann and is backordered with no expected date.. in other words, I'm probably not getting that order.

It's starting to look like I either source or fashion my own alternative or these EA21s are nothing more than vintage parts.
:(
Old 4th June 2019
  #66
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I have ordered and received within the last year several sets of rubbers from Neumann that fit the EA21 and had given you the old and current order numbers. #065418 was not a number I gave you. How was it supposed to fit an EA21 in the first place?

Last edited by Klaus; 4th June 2019 at 11:53 PM..
Old 5th June 2019
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I have ordered and received within the last year several sets of rubbers from Neumann that fit the EA21 and had given you the old and current order numbers. #065418 was not a number I gave you. How was it supposed to fit an EA21 in the first place?
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Make sure you confirm with Sennheiser that the current EA 1 bands (576567) are identical to, and compatible with, the original EA21 bands (065417-old order number). I recently re-strung a pair of EA30 which uses the 065417- supposedly the same bands as used on EA 21.
I should explain.

The email copied above was in response to a voicemail I left in which I requested a suitable replacement for Neumann EA21 shockmount elastic bands. I did not include the part number in the voicemail I left to avoid potential confusion.

I noticed this discrepancy in her reply as well, but it looks like the part numbers 065417 & 065418 are actually two colors of the same part.

..according to this document:
https://en-de.neumann.com/product_files/1683/download

..linked from the neumann website, at the bottom of the page here:
https://en-de.neumann.com/service


I also spoke to someone in the spare parts department at Neumann USA today who told me Neumann had discontinued figure 8 style bands, and that he could not, unfortunately, recommend a replacement.

..but I'll figure something out
Old 3rd August 2020
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Just in case anyone is wondering... The KK84 is still available! I just ordered one through Sennhieser Canada to replace a kk85 cap. Looking forward to hearing some of that missing low end so I can high pass most of it out
Old 4th August 2020
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If you’re not sure of the price how do you know it’s not cheap? Lol

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Not sure, but they weren't cheap...

Ill find out before I post an answer since otherwise its just speculation... and I think all km84 lovers will want to know for sure!

The only thing I know for sure is they are real. Which is why Im amazed they aren't advertised more... or better.... or at all! I wonder which ones they make- 83, 84, 85????

I do know it was a long time coming... Hes been trying to buy them for YEARS for his KM83s and it used to actually cost MORE THAN A NEW MIC to buy just the capsule... No joke. You would be better off getting the entire thing because the capsule was special order. I don't know what changed but again... I have a brand new KM84 capsule in front of me...
Old 6th August 2020
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Originally Posted by Shanktron View Post
Just in case anyone is wondering... The KK84 is still available! I just ordered one through Sennhieser Canada to replace a kk85 cap. Looking forward to hearing some of that missing low end so I can high pass most of it out
Just as an update in case anyone is curious... After submitting the order I received an email and was directed to a retailer (Long and McQuade) by Sennheiser Canada and was able to place an order through them (Sennheiser would not sell these directly).

Price in CDN for the KK84 was $789.99 which included shipping

No ETA was given... I think these need to be fabricated
Old 7th August 2020
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I looked into ordering from this site but I don't believe they ship to North America. Once you add the item to your "cart" there are limited shipping options (countries).

Cheers
Old 7th August 2020
  #73
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I looked into ordering from this site but I don't believe they ship to North America. Once you add the item to your "cart" there are limited shipping options (countries).

Cheers
I don’t doubt it

I was able to order some spare Neumann accessory parts from their Connecticut shop last year. Asked about kk83s at the time, which he said they had, but he easily could have meant overseas

Still might be worth a call?

Service & Repair: Sennheiser Electronic Corp.
1 Enterprise Drive
Old Lyme, CT 06371
Phone: +1 (860) 434****90
Fax: +1 (860) 434-1759
Contact form
https://service.sennheiserusa.com/
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