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Is it bad to leave studio monitors turned on? Effects Pedals, Units & Accessories
Old 2nd February 2009
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Is it bad to leave studio monitors turned on?

In my case ive got BM5A's. You know how it is, getting up there and turning each of them off when youve got all kinds of other gear sitting around is kind of a pain so im wondering if its bad that i leave them powered on all the time. Is this unnessesary wear and tear or is it really no big deal?


As you can see from the pic, its hard for me to get out the chair to get a box of twinkies much less fiddle with power switches
Old 2nd February 2009
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Mine have been on for more than 3 years. No problems
IMO you're more likely to wear out the switches and caps etc by turning them on and off every day.
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power usage

There's always the issue of wasted power... You could get a power strip, plug em in there,
& put the strip close at hand & easy to turn off.

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In my case ive got BM5A's. You know how it is, getting up there and turning each of them off when youve got all kinds of other gear sitting around is kind of a pain so im wondering if its bad that i leave them powered on all the time. Is this unnessesary wear and tear or is it really no big deal?


As you can see from the pic, its hard for me to get out the chair to get a box of twinkies much less fiddle with power switches
Old 2nd February 2009
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ALWAYS SWITCH OFF - There is a global energy problem going on and doing things like leaving unused electronics on the whole time will just help compound the problem years down the line. Modern gear is designed to be switched on and off.
Old 2nd February 2009
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Its hard to sleep with them on.
Old 2nd February 2009
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ALWAYS SWITCH OFF - There is a global energy problem going on and doing things like leaving unused electronics on the whole time will just help compound the problem years down the line. Modern gear is designed to be switched on and off.
exactly, there are capacitors that are made to handle the jolt of power that hits them when you turn the switch on. I have NEVER seen a capacitor BLOW from turning on...
Old 2nd February 2009
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ALWAYS SWITCH OFF - There is a global energy problem going on and doing things like leaving unused electronics on the whole time will just help compound the problem years down the line. Modern gear is designed to be switched on and off.
We have an energy problem concerning electricity????? Wow....somebody please stop the green propaganda machine.tutt



Mine have been on for 5 years, no problem.
Old 2nd February 2009
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unless you got some monitors like Mackie HR824's, where they turn on/off automatically... i'd turn them off.

or if there's a string of sessions day in day out, better to have the gears up and running in case something blows or doesn't wanna turn on.
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We have an energy problem concerning electricity????? Wow....somebody please stop the green propaganda machine.tutt



Mine have been on for 5 years, no problem.

Energy doesn't come from the sky (until solar gets off the ground... ooohh two puns at once). Even if there's not an energy problem, there will be eventually.

If each generation decides 'it's not my problem', eventually we're going to be old and 3 generations removed wondering why the world is so screwed up.
Old 2nd February 2009
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Apart the obvious "energy wasting" issues, the rectifier capacitors have a life of some thousands of hours, so it's better to switch the gears off when not in use.
Old 2nd February 2009
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Energy doesn't come from the sky (until solar gets off the ground... ooohh two puns at once). Even if there's not an energy problem, there will be eventually.

If each generation decides 'it's not my problem', eventually we're going to be old and 3 generations removed wondering why the world is so screwed up.
Spare me the drama, please. Leaving your monitors on will not cause the world to crumble with indifference.
To even use the world's energy "crisis" as an argument to turn your monitors off is ludicrous, imo. Almost as ludicrous as Al Gore's fantasy movie.
Old 2nd February 2009
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We have an energy problem concerning electricity????? Wow....somebody please stop the green propaganda machine.tutt



Mine have been on for 5 years, no problem.
yeah? Well start switching them off. We do. Abbey Road do. So why not everyone else?
Old 2nd February 2009
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Spare me the drama, please. Leaving your monitors on will not cause the world to crumble with indifference. .
That's the problem - if everyone does what you're suggesting, then we're fekked. It's not propaganda.... it's darn common sense. It's just irresponsible NOT to switch off.

Yes and Al Gore is an idiot.
Old 2nd February 2009
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Spare me the drama, please. Leaving your monitors on will not cause the world to crumble with indifference.
To even use the world's energy "crisis" as an argument to turn your monitors off is ludicrous, imo. Almost as ludicrous as Al Gore's fantasy movie.
It's true that one pair of monitors will not make much difference. But neither does your attitude. I haven't seen Al Gore's movie but there are many independent sources reporting climate change caused by man. There's no need to leave anything on when it's not beeing used. Oh... here's drama for you.dfegad
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We have an energy problem concerning electricity????? Wow....somebody please stop the green propaganda machine.tutt



Mine have been on for 5 years, no problem.
Dude, I have a problem with people treating MY and my fellow beings' only and marvellous Earth (our home) like **** because some people can't see the difference between propaganda and reality.

This is NOT aimed at the OP, but at people like you, who are doing propaganda to collectively ruin our world. YES, the ecological crisis is real, and YES, the good thing is, that we can do something about. And YES, every day, also in the studio, I think about what I can do to rid myself of wasteful practices.

I hope you'll do the same, when you have been properly informed.

Sorry to the OP, for taking this OT.

Edit: Oh, yeah, and I cringe when I read on forums about all the PC's standing turned on 24hours, so it can always download porn, even while the owner is sleeping. I know it is not done from malice, simply from not thinking about consequences.

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jesus, just turn them off at the end of the day/session, no big deal

i have s3a's - does turning them off from the standby switch at the front still use electricity, or do you have to turn off the mains round the back?
Old 2nd February 2009
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I must be a freak cause I turn almost everything off in my house and studio when Im not using it or sleeping (my kids though.....arrg).

The most important reason IMO is fire hazard.

wouldn't that suck to wake up to?

oh yeah and electricity cost money that I need for gear.

And I agree Al Gore's movie is simply funny, kinda like "Reafer madness"

Reefer Madness
Old 2nd February 2009
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Dude, take it from someone who actually studied this, and read the sources that Gore used for his movie. Whatever you may feel about Gore, his message is rational, not irrational.

I'm happy to see, though, that his movie has made such an impact, that it amply illuminates the ignorance of some.

That being, said, I'm happy to hear you turn off your stuff at night. And those reasons you mention, are by themselves good reasons, too.
Old 2nd February 2009
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If you don't switch 'em off I'll get Al Gore to send ManBearPig round to your studio and turn them off for you. I'm super cereal.

But on a serious note, turn them off. I feel bad enough leaving them on for hours when I'm not in the room, couldn't imagine leaving them on permanently. Shudder.
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let's look at it another way. I used to leave pretty much most of the gear on - the consoles and monitors and MACs. 8 years ago a started switching them of ..... the electricity bills went from £1300 a quarter to about £700. Not a massive saving in company terms - but I now use that money to buy nice things or go on holiday.
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let's look at it another way. I used to leave pretty much most of the gear on - the consoles and monitors and MACs. 8 years ago a started switching them of ..... the electricity bills went from £1300 a quarter to about £700. Not a massive saving in company terms - but I now use that money to buy nice things or go on holiday.
Yea, there's another green reason, and that makes sense too

My experience, talking to friends and family, is that getting new energy efficient fridges/freezers and such, makes for substantial savings in energy and thus expenses. Although that might not be relevant in discussing recording studios.

But pulling the PS3 from the studio leisure room, even when it is in standby, will make a significant reduction in consumption, about 250 dollars/year:
Playstation 3 consumes more power than a medium sized fridge
Old 2nd February 2009
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I must be a freak cause I turn almost everything off in my house and studio when Im not using it
I do this too. I have everything connected to power supplies that i shut off when i leave the house or go to bed. In particular I find it stressful trying to sleep with a bunch of electronic gear humming away.
Old 2nd February 2009
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If you don't want to switch off the gears this DIY Kit could done it for you
Sequential relay device

It has 3 separate outputs so you can make gears > mixer > monitors on "switch on" phase and a reversed sequence during switch off.
The transformer it's only in 230V version (i think) but you can swap it with every other 10V 0,5A AC transformer.
The building instructions and schematics aren't supplied with the kit, but you can ask to the magazine if they can send something useful for you.
Old 2nd February 2009
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I always turn my stuff off. It's an easy habit to get in to. It adds life to your gear, protects aginst fire, saves on HVAC. Pretty much a no brainer.
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ALWAYS SWITCH OFF - There is a global energy problem going on and doing things like leaving unused electronics on the whole time will just help compound the problem years down the line. Modern gear is designed to be switched on and off.
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Its hard to sleep with them on.
Apparently.. heh


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unless you got some monitors like Mackie HR824's, where they turn on/off automatically... i'd turn them off.
My HR824's don't do that. Hmmmm...
Old 2nd February 2009
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you need to watch the movie with an open mind.........The gore one

Propaganda.

Think off the weight of ice on Greenland.... Its pushing down on the crust of the earth under greenland. As it melts, Greenland rises and the ocean receives the water, offsetting the displacement of the weight of ice that was on Greenland.

To me this is why the oceans will not rise, at least not nearly as much as Al says.

I know that is not the only probloem suggested by the movie.

Notice when you watch the movie how many times you see mr Gore using his laptop,cellphone,limosine,airplanes ect... its like they are not even aware of how bad that looks when they made the movie about man ruining the earth.

Just dumb, I laughed at the movie the whole time.The editing is so funny.

How bout this, what color are cloulds? white. What happens when you put more water in the atmosphere? More clouds form. What do white clouds do to heat? They reflect it back to space.


PS Do you think there could be ANYTHING possitive for humans to come from global warming?......Anything! There must be at least one good thing that global warming could do for humans. What is under all that ice that we will gain access to...farm land,fresh water,living land,oil, minerals, fosils, lost civilizations.....ect ect... but Al Gore cant make money from that.

The last time the world warmed up Humans did very well.
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Guys, I realize that Gore can provoke a sneer. Here is the deal though: A LOT of people (my humble self included), have tried and tried for YEARS to bring attention to the fact that modern civilization, blessed as it may be in material leisure, simply overtaxes the foundation of that very civilization: the Earth.
The Earth's credit is simply running out. The bank is broke.

In the "green community" people burn out in droves because of the irrationalty and powerful institutions that have had to be fought to be heard. Thus "we" sometimes become tiresome, i admit that. But it is/has been one tough battle, with an extreme opposition. Extreme in its greed and cynicism and extreme in its political clout.

Now, finally, in the 13th hour, it appears that even the cynicism of misguided leadership and the oil companies has been overcome by evidence and fact. The popular vote now considers Al Gore's message, perhaps even before they consider the rhetoric and propaganda of ruthless oil companies. If Al Gore is saying exactly what the scientific community has been saying for years, this is a reason to rejoice. If he brings the message in overly simplistic terms, you should be glad that he brings the message, at all. And that he brings it in terms that can be understood even by people without education and without access/want to heavy scientific materials. Please don't confuse the message with estetics. The message is too important for that.

If I sound like dramatical, I'm sorry, but I am on too frequent an occasion literally brought to tears when I consier the uniqueness and glory of our world, vis-a-vis the laissez-faire practices that seems to completely ignore that.

Check my "propaganda", I've not really tried to bring it to the "market" because I know it won't stand a chance, but one or two of you might enjoy what I'm doing. It sure is straight from the heart:
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The last time the world warmed up Humans did very well.

One word:
Desertification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Ohh, btw. there is ample scientific materials available if you want to sincerely quantify the effects of global warming. I will help you dig it up, if you want me to.

Speculation and chit-chat will not really get you much closer to the facts of the matter.
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You can get power strips that switch everything off when one master device is powered down.

Btw, why do we have big vans in the UK that carry tonnes of material around all day with engines of 1.8L - 2.5L and cars in the US that carry a couple of kids and shopping around all have bigger engines?

Is it the automatic gear-box thing where massive torque is needed to move in any gear because you guys can't drive grown-ups cars?

heh
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smokapot wrote:

"Think off the weight of ice on Greenland.... Its pushing down on the crust of the earth under greenland. As it melts, Greenland rises and the ocean receives the water, offsetting the displacement of the weight of ice that was on Greenland."

Hehe Even accepting this premise, the poles are melting, too.

smokapot wrote:
"Notice when you watch the movie how many times you see mr Gore using his laptop,cellphone,limosine,airplanes ect... its like they are not even aware of how bad that looks when they made the movie about man ruining the earth."

True. This is not the Messiah, I agree to that.

smokapot wrote:
"Just dumb, I laughed at the movie the whole time.The editing is so funny."

Yes, the editing is tendentious. But the message is solid.

smokapot wrote:
"How bout this, what color are cloulds? white. What happens when you put more water in the atmosphere? More clouds form. What do white clouds do to heat? They reflect it back to space."

No, sorry, they retain heat. That's the way it works. Positive feedback is a big issue in global warming. Its a downward spiral, sadly.

smokapot wrote:
"PS Do you think there could be ANYTHING possitive for humans to come from global warming?......Anything! There must be at least one good thing that global warming could do for humans. What is under all that ice that we will gain access to...farm land,fresh water,living land,oil, minerals, fosils, lost civilizations.....ect ect... but Al Gore cant make money from that.

The last time the world warmed up Humans did very well.[/quote]

Ice core samples have revealed that CO2 levels in the atmoshere is the highest in millions of years.
To really understand the problem, you will have to first understand basic ecology in relation to evolutionary processes. Ecology describes how organisms and their habitats have developed through millions of years in instrinsic relations. The reason there is so much special variation (multitudes of animal/plant species) is that organisms developed along with their environment, the Earth, which has been surprisingly benign and balanced in millions of years. The human being is almost exceptional in that we can sustain our lives in highly diverse environments. Few plants and animal can do that. Thus global heating will mean the irradication of many, many species, who cannot adapt to changes in their habitats. The world will become a less rich place. A few hardy breeds will succeed in killing off many others.

Much of our water is tied to ice deposits. Thus Colorado and other "ice states" is already experiencing water supply problems because ice does not form in the winters, and thus leaves little water for waterways that typically feed off melting snow.

Listen, this is a HUGE deal, I've just tried to give basic answers to oyur questions, here.

Best regards, I'm honestly sorry if I sound snotty, it comes from a rather severe feeling of loss.
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