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Your preferences in Drum overhead mics
Old 19th June 2005
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Your preferences in Drum overhead mics

So do you prefere bright mics, ribbons, LCD, SCD, cardioid, omni?

I'm just looking for personal preferences and for what inspires you.

Thanks guys.
DHD
Old 19th June 2005
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My best results have been with KM84s, but thats just me

I positioned them as a spaced pair, using Stavs technique... turned out pretty good with nice stereo imaging (though admittedly not as good as it could be) and it supported the close mics well.
Old 19th June 2005
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Hi there,

I always like Neumann U87, when I record to tape.
Often ribbon mics, when it goes to digital.

It really depends on the kind of music I'm recording.
I guess any nice mic will do the job if the sound fits the rest of the arrangement.
It's the overall picture that counts.
I've heard of sessions with SM57s as overhead mics...

Tom
Old 19th June 2005
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In my room I actually like the Josephson C42's a lot. However, the lowend on my drums I get from the close mics and the (mono) room mic, not necessarly the overheads (although they do contribute).

Greetings,
Dirk
Old 19th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DHD
I'm just looking for personal preferences and for what inspires you.
The room, mood, instinct, guesswork... in that order... that, and I try not to do the same thing more than a couple of times which directly leads to having no set ways of doing anything... or at least anything that has to do with microphone selection and placement.
Old 19th June 2005
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I use AKG451C stereo pair, most of the time arranged in ORTF.
Old 19th June 2005
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Audition whats available at that studio at that time on that drummer...

At my place we have these possble stereo pairs:

AKG 451 SCD
Neumann M149 valve LCD
Beyer M160 ribbon

I use the Beyers usually unless I do 3 the mic trick, then I use the Neumanns
Old 19th June 2005
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The Royer SF-12 gives me constantly good results. They take EQ very well, even tough only little is needed and you get a great stereo image, just make sure the snare shows up in the middle of the picture.
Old 19th June 2005
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My two favs are the Neumann KM184'ss and the AKG 414ULS's, depending on the room and kit, etc.

I just tried a single Blue Bottle (B6 capsule) last weekend with great results.

Cymbals all sound differently, and how they are played effect the choice as well.

As always, use your ears!
Old 19th June 2005
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QTC30's seem to be my favorite, given I'm in a great sounding room. Earthwork Sr77's, Royer 121's, and AKG451's also get that task often. Damn do I love recording with omni's!
Old 19th June 2005
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Shure KSM 32s are almost always the first things I try.
Old 19th June 2005
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I just did a drumrecording with a Soundelux U99b in Omni in front of the kit at about belly level facing slightly down towards the snare. this killed all the overhead mics I also tried....no competition.
before that I usually used a pair of AKG 451 or 414TLII in standard overhead position.

rock on,
P.
Old 19th June 2005
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I've had good luck with AT 4047, 4050 and Pro37R. I used to work in a joint with a pair of Shure SM81s that I really miss. I've got a pair of the cheap ribbons on the way that I'm eager to try.

I was on the drum recording panel at TapeOpCon with Joe Chiccarelli and we used a pair of Blue Dragonflies and I'm jonesin' for a pair of those now too.

If I had a match to my U87 I'd dig that. I've got a 70s model and it does make a nice mono OH.
Old 19th June 2005
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Soundeluxe U99!

Great detail and excellent transient response.... you really feel the drums!

Also had good luck with Audio Technica 4050s sometimes I've even had luck with RODE NTKs....

Jason
Old 19th June 2005
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cool we got 13 posts and 12 different mics mentioned, that's what I love about recording
Old 19th June 2005
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4038s rule as the overheads 4 me. mono 251 room or 47.
Old 19th June 2005
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Although not considered high end here, I have had good results in my room with the lowly Rode NT4. Not always my fav, but when a session has to go warp speed, you can't beat the set up time.

I also dig the 414's
Old 19th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumsound

If I had a match to my U87 I'd dig that. I've got a 70s model and it does make a nice mono OH.
I wouldn't worry so much about a pair of U87s matching. I would assume that if you find any U87 from the seventies, it would just match yours nicely for a stereo overhead pair. If it doesn't sound exactly like the one you have - well hell, then the drum set sounds a little wider...

Audio Technica gave me a pair of 4050s to try out, and I find they sound a bit too cold (probably because they have no transformer). Went straight back to the U87s.

Cheers, Tom
Old 19th June 2005
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Most recent recording I did was with an AKG C24 in MS....that was a good time!
Old 19th June 2005
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Pair of Gefell UM92.1's
Old 19th June 2005
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SM 81 through Summit Neve Pre Eq
Old 20th June 2005
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Actually I also like using a Royer SF12 - Awesome! Great 'clang' and minimal 'hissssssss' sound - v beefy on overheads
Old 20th June 2005
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This combo: M149s with Fearn VT-2.
Old 20th June 2005
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ADK Vienna Editions.
Old 20th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mwagener
The Royer SF-12 gives me constantly good results. They take EQ very well, even tough only little is needed and you get a great stereo image, just make sure the snare shows up in the middle of the picture.
02:55 AM. Just got back from the studio, Been tracking drums for three days straight. Used the SF-12 thru a pair of V76 preamps. Gotto second all above.... very nice stereo image and smooth if your face cymbals.

Cheers and goooodnight,
Lindell
Old 20th June 2005
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AKG 414s into a Neve Portico
Old 20th June 2005
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I got to shoot out KSM 32's against B and K ( not sure number) anyhow, high zoot mics. I really liked the shures!

also dig the royer 121's alot for the straight ahead jazz stuff... and, believe it or not..AT 4033's have been used alot lately around here!

WTF do I know tho?
Old 20th June 2005
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Always a mono km84 even though a I have a pair.
Sean
Old 20th June 2005
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We used an AEA R88 on a session on the weekend.

Absolutely sings. Just bump up a few db's on the top-end and it's smooth as silk. No harsh transient from the metalwork at all.
Old 20th June 2005
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AKG C451E's (most often thru Buzz MA2.2, or hardy M1's)
sometimes TC30k's thru the same
Used U99 a few times, but more often as FOK, or room...
KM184's also have worked, but not using them as much lately...

Would like to have another 4038 for OH's, but no such luck yet

Would like to try the R88, or moreso the SF24, or even the SF12 - have used R-121, and SF1 on kit, but no prs for stereo, tho I really dig the 'meat' from the kit, and lack of cymbal 'hash'...
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