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Old 12th July 2002
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guitar distribution?

OK I need to buy some sort of splitter to send a signal into two different amps... something real simple, but that wont degrade the signal too much. Should I build something simple myself or is better to buy something..... (i couldnt imagine their would be too much to it). Anyone have any thoughts?
Old 12th July 2002
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believe it or not, there are lots of those things on the market...one is called the "Studio-Ho" , another is the Kendrick A-B-C (I think) several others, some with tubes, some without......anyway, they are active devices that route guitar level signal in several different directions, all fully buffered and in phase.

One thing I have found very useful is the VHT Valvulator...splits signals while providing a great tube buffering...also gives a filtered regulated power supply for your stompboxes...

K
Old 13th July 2002
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I gotta agree with that 'valvulator' post....tried one...liked it...christmas wish list now one item longer....peace
Old 13th July 2002
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The idea of the VHT unit scares me. I like the sound of the amps I have for recording and dont want to take a chance with something else messing with the tone so I want something as clean as possible.

So where would I go about finding a 1 in to 2-4 out box? And how much should I expect to pay?
Old 13th July 2002
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Little Labs PCP distro. Check it out at littlelabs.com. The thing is the shit. Has a great DI in it as well.Use it all of the time. Very reliable and great build quality.

-Z-
Old 13th July 2002
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I did a review of the PCP Distro in Tape Op a while back, I like mine...

Then theres the Lucas Deciever

A new Jenson transformer buffered box

Several

The PCP is super cool but a tad spendy, it does many things extra.. The Di is excelent IMHO and it can act as a re-amp box & some other stuff...

http://www.littlelabs.com/pcp.html

Old 13th July 2002
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I cant do spendy right now. Anyone know of anything cheap? I've been looking at the jenson site and might try to build one of their splitters they have a schematic for if I cant find something usuable under 2-300ish.

All I really NEED is one in... two out. Even though at some point I want to pick up the little labs distro.... just dont have the cash at the time.

At this point I dont think I'd like trying to get more then 2 miked amps in phase with each other anyway.
Old 13th July 2002
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If you only NEED 2 outs and you don't have alot of dough, then I would just use a stereo pedal.
I use Lovetone pedals but you can simply use a Boss chorus in bypass and you'll be fine.
Old 14th July 2002
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Well I have a morley A/B box right now... but it sounds way better to go straight to the amp.... so I just want something thats not going to F with the tone as much, but still split the signal. Going thru a boss pedal sort of scares me, but i do have a stereo delay laying around and ill try and see if its better then my A/B box.
Old 14th July 2002
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Here is another box that is similar to the PCP. Looks decent but don't know how expensive it is.http://www.radialeng.com/News/HighLights/JD7.cfm
Old 14th July 2002
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planet red

the problem with the A/B box is: it's loading your guitar. The input impedance of a tube guitar amp is at about 1M ohm and the output of a "normal" guitar is at about 250 K ohm. So, when you combine (parallel) two 1 M ohm resistors (as in amp inputs) your impedance goes down to about 500 K and that is low enough to affect the 250 K output of your guitar by bringing down the (already minimal) output current of the pickups. The best way around this is buffer amps which separate the guitar amp inputs from each other. I've used a Boss chorus pedal before, as Mike sugested, and it works pretty well. Maybe the signal in the Boss goes through a couple of buffers, dunno. I also tested the unit at http://www.radialeng.com/News/HighLights/JD7.cfm
and it sounds great. I think the streetprice is somewhere around $ 500.
My advice: use a Boss pedal until you can get the LittleLabs PCP.
Old 14th July 2002
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i use my moogerfoogers for the best path, but i get trailer park sometimes and use the morley a/b box. its good enough for rock and roll man.... plus it allows me various fx runs and combinations while playing.
Old 14th July 2002
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The Littlelabs "PCP" does so many things it's frightening... from guitar signal "distribution" to "reamping" to "DI" to damn near anything else you can think of... it's one of the most powerful guitar oriented tools I've ever met...

Best of luck!!
Old 10th October 2002
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Guitar Distribution Splitter

There are three things you need to consider before buying a guitar distribution system:

1. The sound

Will the original tone of the guitar shine through or will it sound like you have converted the guitar from passive to active. Loading is also a problem as your guitar will have no balls. You must however compensate if there is 'no loading'. If not the guitar will no longer sound right. This is important.

2. Isolation

You have to make sure the amplifiers are isolated from one another or else you will probably have problems with ground humm and buzz. Also, be very careful when using older amps that do not have 3 pins as this can be dangerous!

3. Control

Make sure you can reverse the polarity, lift grounds and turn on and off the amps and effect devices as needed. Changing the polarity (phase) can be huge!

One other point...

Reamping is great fun!

Record a dry track and then send the signal into your amps afterwords.

Old 10th October 2002
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Fletcher,

I'm shocked you didn't mention the Alan Smart guitar distros...

We're digging ours alot! One guitar in the control room to 4 amps around the studio.

Mercenary sells 'em, folks.
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