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Old 26th April 2010
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This is my typical starting point for snare. Gives me lots of options at mix time. ;-)

Would hate to be the drummer that has to hit the head...one false move...
Old 26th April 2010
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441
Josephson C42
TAB Modded 57 on the bottom.

I'd like to try out a 451 at some point.

M201 sounds great too, but I don't own one (yet).
Old 26th April 2010
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Would hate to be the drummer that has to hit the head...one false move...
Must be the set up for the drummer with an American Express black card deposit .

I like an SM81 on top and a dynamic on the bottom (currently a Sennheiser E604).
Old 27th April 2010
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The Mercenary Audio TAB 57 ain't no slouch.
Old 27th April 2010
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Must say I'm a bit surprised nobody has mentioned the D19 on this thread.
Old 1st June 2010
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Okay, so this thread's a month old but...

I'm surprised with all the M201 mentions here, nobody has brought up it's snare-specific cousin, the M422.
Don't get me wrong I love the 201, but I find it usually wants a 2nd mic with it where I can often get away with the 422 alone.

Also +1 for a 57 with the trafo removed - better than you'd imagine.
Old 1st June 2010
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An AKG C535 is an awesome mic on snare. Very different than a 57..... Unfortunately Someone stole mine from the studio
Old 1st June 2010
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Unfortunately Someone stole mine from the studio
There's been a rash of that going around, unfortunately.

My snare (top) mic: Shure Beta 87C. Yep - the vocal mic.
Old 2nd June 2010
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m160 or tlm102

both are fantastic on snare.

i don't get the sm57 on snare at all... it sounds dull, boxy and plain boring.
Old 2nd June 2010
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I never liked 57s on snare until I used one with a 1073. There's something about that pairing - specifically where Neve designed the EQ frequencies - that really make it work to me. I also had to learn to gate properly.

I also really, really dig SM81s on a big, dark snare. Gotta have a guy who can control himself on the hats, though.

Nothing but nothing will give a clean snare mic sound if the guy is pounding the daylights out of the hats. In that case, I rout the hat mic to his cans, and turn it WAY up.
Old 2nd June 2010
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Beta 57A, transformerless 57, 441, SM7 are/used to be my 1st choices. EV 468 can be cool, too, in some instances.
Currently exploring the OHs as main source of snare (and tom) sound.
Old 2nd June 2010
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km84 sounds best to me.
Old 3rd June 2010
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I never liked 57s on snare until I used one with a 1073. There's something about that pairing...
Back when 57's were designed the average input impedence on boards was lower than it is now (usually a trafo with a 600Ω input side) - as such, loading 'em down to about 500 or 600 ohms really opens 'em up. Lots of folks used to take 'em apart and solder a 680Ω resistor across pins 2 & 3 so they'd be there when paralleled with a 1500-2000 ohm input (the impedence of most pre's nowadays) - easy thing to try:

http://www.recordingmag.com/resource...etail/330.html

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...EV 468 can be cool, too, in some instances...
What about the ND408 (the little pill-shaped dealie that sounds like a 468 but is much easier to place)? I find it great for Ramones-style rock/punk and ska.

Ya know, I'm not surprised at the suggestions people are making, but I'm very surprised that mics like the E/V ND408, the Beyer M422 and the Audix ADX-20 & D2 aren't get any play. I'm I the only one that's ever used these? Or do people just hate 'em that much?
Old 3rd June 2010
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sm57 and 451 taped together on top. sm57 bottom and/or 414/4050 on fig8 between kick's beater head and snare bottom.
Old 3rd June 2010
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(...)What about the ND408 (the little pill-shaped dealie that sounds like a 468 but is much easier to place)?(...)
Whatever gave youTHAT idea?
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Old 3rd June 2010
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Re: snare mic

Happy user with Audix D1 on snare.

Ramsa condenser clip mics are nice too, MD441 and C414 as well depending on the sound you're at!

Don't forget: mic positioning, snare type, tuning, stick, room, overheads and drummer are making the sound.

Luk
Old 3rd June 2010
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Whatever gave youTHAT idea?
My bad...was misremembering the 468

Still, with all the different snares and snare sounds out there, no one finds any of the other EV's/Beyer M422/AudioTechnica/Oktava useful?
Old 5th June 2010
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I've been using an AKG c1000 on the bottom and a 57 on the top with pretty good results, but I'm still not a big fan of the 57 for snare. I have used 409's and 421's but the results were not much different than with the 57.
Old 7th September 2010
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An sm81 taped to a 57 or a 201 usually gets it for me. I'd like a km184, but mine are usually tied up already. Ive used the ev 408's sometimes, but not often. Bottom mics don't seem too critical to me, 57 or 441 works for me.
JJ

P.s. a Beyer 260 on top?! Daring my friend.
Old 7th September 2010
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I need to try M160 on snare if you say its good, I hope the ribbon will survive
Old 8th September 2010
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I've given up micing from top and bottom,
{a complete waste of time, too much overing, snare bleed, kickpedal noise etc...}I use 2 SM57's; miced internally, pointed in opposite directions...and the sound is phatattacktack...
any similar mic is going to respond well using this technique...and no I dont phase reverse the signals...
Old 9th September 2010
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I've given up micing from top and bottom,
{a complete waste of time, too much overing, snare bleed, kickpedal noise etc...}I use 2 SM57's; miced internally, pointed in opposite directions...and the sound is phatattacktack...
any similar mic is going to respond well using this technique...and no I dont phase reverse the signals...
Do you have some sample ? How did you mount them inside and how`s the wiring done ?
Old 9th September 2010
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Beyer dynamic M420N for snare top.
Audix i5 on snare bottom.
Old 9th September 2010
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Heil Pr30 up, telefunken ak47 bottom, great result and no eq needed most of the time.
Old 15th September 2010
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Does anyone else feel the proximity effect on 57s is just slightly too much? I like it a lot on snare, but almost always get too much 'pop' in the 100-200Hz range. You can back off a few inches for better tone, but then you get more bleed.

I tried am SM-7 (low cut engaged, mid-boost engaged) last night and it definitely lacked the bump, but then again the capsule was about 2-3 inches off the head due to the grill. I'm going to try an SM-81 tonight.
Old 16th September 2010
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i like sen md421 or 441, beyer m201, sm57 (on it's best with transfo removed, wich is an very easy job to do), AKG D19, EV RE15 sometimes, ... depending on the conditions
Old 18th September 2010
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Most of the Slutz suggestions here are good, but it really depends on the snare you are using, the room, the drummer, and finally the song. There is a big difference between something like a chrome/metal Ludwig Supra Phonic vs. a 6.5" x 14" Gretch Mahogany snare and there is no reason to think you would use the same mic for each. For example, I have a mid 1960's Ludwig chrome snare that is so bright and loud I often times (depending on the song) don't even mic it and just depend on the U87 overhead mics to pick it up and it sits perfectly in the mix. I'm probably not going to do that with a deep and dark wood snare. The Shure SM57 is the desert island gold standard snare mic for a good reason but it can be fun to experiment. Although placement can be an issue, because its big, I have used an EV RE20 on a snare and it gave me a HUGE sound. Experiment, use your ears, and always defer to the needs of the song and not the needs of Gearslutz, because they can never be satisfied!
Old 18th September 2010
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I know the 57 is usually the go to mic for most things. That's what I use on the snare.
Old 18th September 2010
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My bad...was misremembering the 468

Still, with all the different snares and snare sounds out there, no one finds any of the other EV's/Beyer M422/AudioTechnica/Oktava useful?
I've used a 408, it sounds good (as many EV dynamics do) and it's super useful for tight set-ups. I normally use an AT ATM23he which also positions well. Its like a mini ATM25.
Old 18th September 2010
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Sennheiser e905 is another option, purpose built for snare drum. Plus another vote for the i5. Not my #1 choice (that's a Granelli Labs G5790) but a surprising #2.

I have just ordered a right angle elbow from Granelli that I will use with an SM 58 capsule and a Beta 57 windshield.. Frankensnaremic!
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