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New Event Opal Monitors - not your regular speakers
Old 3rd January 2012
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Interesting they measure the speakers from 4m away. Not many would use them that far away
The far away, the more room acoustics are involved.
That must be a very good anechoic room.
listening at
2meter is Ok.
1 meter its getting too close.

some speakers design needs a 2 meter listening...
the Event TR6/7, at 1 meter they sound ugly, but 2 meters much better.
Old 5th January 2012
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The measurements in Sound & Recording belong to the best available. They are done by Prof. Dr. Anselm Goertz, who is known in Germany as a kind of "frequency pope". His reputation as specialist for sound engineering and electro acoustics is flawless. He uses the anechoic chamber of the university of Aachen for his measurements. You won't find anything better and more reliable for measuring speakers.
Old 12th January 2012
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Genelec 1032a vs Event Opal
Here's a testimony of the new batch sounding nothing line the older one.
Old 12th January 2012
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I owned both. Old and brand new. They sound different. But the more I use the new ones the more they open up.
My friend who happens to be one of the top engineers in Minneapolis heard them today for the first time Nd remarked at how nice the top end sounded. I am not mad at the upgrade, they do not sound forced to me. But to each his own.
Old 12th January 2012
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I owned both. Old and brand new. They sound different. But the more I use the new ones the more they open up.
My friend who happens to be one of the top engineers in Minneapolis heard them today for the first time Nd remarked at how nice the top end sounded. I am not mad at the upgrade, they do not sound forced to me. But to each his own.

Ok, they sound different, but how would you exactly describe the difference?
Old 12th January 2012
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That guy said no bass and forced mids? Not I would say my newer Opals would sound, at least compared to all the other monitors I've had here.
The most bass, and least mid dominant of the lot.

If there was anymore bass it would be too much, and the top end is pretty bright
Old 12th January 2012
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The tweeter redesign was definitely an improvement. We got a pair to replace our older opals in earlier this week.
Old 13th January 2012
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Finally I got tired of asking other people for their impression of the new design (which makes no sense anyway - ears are more acourate than descriptions) and gave it a listen at my retailer yesterday. I have to admit that the new tweeter isn't worse than the old model. Though I didn't have the opportunity to compare the new model directly to the old, I would say that it could even be better. My impression was the "new" Opal being a bit more present in the mid-range, but still as clear and detailed as the old model. This does not mean, the new tweeter makes the Opal being mid-forward, of course. To assure that I compared the Opal to the Focal Twins (which is the most common competitor if I rely on this forum), which are much more forward in the mids. And they still are. Opals definitely won that competition in my opinion, Twins seem to be pushed in the mids compared to Event's masterpiece, while being a lot weaker in the bass. One thing I always loved about Opal's sound is their absolute clearness and transparency over the whole frequency range while providing tons of raw power and rapidness in the bass, which for me makes them truly the most pristine and potent monitors within their price range (here Event's Public Relation department didn't exaggerate). None of these qualities have changed with the new tweeter. In fact, they might even have improved.

By the way, the new tweeter still has a light red glimmer when you look at it, which is a bit unexpected having in mind that an alluminium-magnesium alloy is being used. It is not as strong as with the old tweeter, but still visible. The shop man assured me, it was the new model, which was also proven by the additional metal grille above the amp's heat sink. Can anyone owning the new model attest this light red glimmer of the new tweeter? It also might have been a result of the bad lighting of the listening room I was in.

Eventually I was so impressed by the Opal, I immediately placed an order for a pair. I'll get it when the new batch arrives here in Germany at the beginning of February. I'm pretty excited how they will listen in my own room.
Old 13th January 2012
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Yes the tweeter has a light bronze colour. The older one looked more copper orange from what I see in photos.

Your right about the power of the sound along with the clarity. It's very obvious when watching movies with them. The orchestral strings soar, while the movie soundtrack stabs and hits have a lot of effortless omphhhh in high tension scenes. Off course not many here will get to do this with them - they make a great home theatre speaker

edit - out of all the speakers I've had here, the Opals have been the best with large Piano sample libraries when I play with them. From the bottom to top octaves. It sounds just right and realistic.
Old 13th January 2012
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I'll keep the old one's.. They were bloody expensive to begin with.
Old 13th January 2012
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You're right with keeping the old ones, the improvement with the new tweeter (if there is one - to be sure, I would have to had the opportunity to compare old and new directly as I told) is not so big that it would justify the expense of a new pair.

@CoolColJ: Interesting to hear from someone who uses Opals not only for producing or music listening. Actually, I intend to use my Opals for several purposes other than producing. I also want to use them as dj-monitors, for music listening, movie watching and sometimes also for small parties at my place. Their power and headroom combined with their musicality makes them suitable for a lot of purposes, which is another main reason why I decided on them.
Old 13th January 2012
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I love this thread.
Old 13th January 2012
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I love these speakers.heh
Old 14th January 2012
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I'm curious about the re-vamped tweeters.. Mine are about 1.5 years old now.. Since I've just moved back to Sydney, maybe I should run these over and see about an update? But I haven't had any problems with them and love the way they sound...

Just can't seem to let an update go by without trying it out.. heh
Old 14th January 2012
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Mine are also just a year and a half old or so.
I thought I had the "newer" ones, that is, those that have the fix for the two issues that plagued the first release: The noisy noise floor and the limiters that kick in too early. The first year of this thread was focussed on those issues.

But seemingly there's another update since then with the tweeter. I'm still unsure as to whether this was a forced upgrade due to a shortage of a part or whether it was an improvement to overcome a shortcoming.
Old 14th January 2012
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Mine are also just a year and a half old or so.
I thought I had the "newer" ones, that is, those that have the fix for the two issues that plagued the first release: The noisy noise floor and the limiters that kick in too early. The first year of this thread was focussed on those issues.

But seemingly there's another update since then with the tweeter. I'm still unsure as to whether this was a forced upgrade due to a shortage of a part or whether it was an improvement to overcome a shortcoming.
I'll probably just give them a call on Monday and just ask.. they're pretty decent peeps there.
Old 16th January 2012
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The answer would be highly interesting. Please let us know!
Old 26th January 2012
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Finishing the first album on Opals... very confused, not satisfied at all. The room is very much treated... so it's not the room. My mix is too fat, not clear enough... like I said before, these monitors are not good! They are too bright...
Old 26th January 2012
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Maybe the new version is better in the hi range... I also feel these monitors are mid-less.
Old 26th January 2012
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Finishing the first album on Opals... very confused, not satisfied at all. The room is very much treated... so it's not the room. My mix is too fat, not clear enough... like I said before, these monitors are not good! They are too bright...
turn the top end down then?
Old 26th January 2012
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How are the event opals vs dynaudio BM6A (not the MK II) in terms of bass response?
Old 26th January 2012
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turn the top end down then?
I did... still too much in the face brightness... also the LOW and HI balance changes when listening quiet or loud. Anyone else noticed this?

I think I made a big mistake buying these... maybe I should start saving for the Animas
Old 26th January 2012
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Finishing the first album on Opals... very confused, not satisfied at all. The room is very much treated... so it's not the room. My mix is too fat, not clear enough... like I said before, these monitors are not good! They are too bright...
Seems completely normal for someone who's used to mixing on Focal twins.

Also, besides being used to the voicing of the Twins, you might just prefer to mix on monitors that are voiced like Twins (mid forward).

Nothing wrong with that, that's just how monitors are, VERY personal and subjective.

Opals are obviously good, just not good for 'you' (right now). You could learn them (assuming there is nothing wrong with them, they're broken in, and the room is good), like you could learn every monitor, but how much time you want to put into that and whether it's worth it in the end is another matter.
Old 26th January 2012
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Looks like you are right... I doubt I will ever get comfortable with opals.
Old 26th January 2012
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Looks like you are right... I doubt I will ever get comfortable with opals.
Just curious... since your experience with the Opals sounds unlike anyone else's I've ever heard... what cables are using to them? I heard early on about some problems using TRS cables with them in some cases, and XLR cables fixed the problem. Whatever the case, it really sounds like your Opals don't sound "right". They should, at the very least, sound something similar to Focals. There just wouldn't be as much difference to everything else as you're describing.

My pair also sound very much the same, either loud or quiet. There's not a huge amount of difference. I listen to them at what most would call low volume most of the time, and they sound great and the mixes translate very well to other systems.
Old 26th January 2012
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I use standard balanced XLR cables. Should be fine.

I noticed the problem when compared the Focals next to them. If I level the volume of all my monitors on the monitor controller at low levels it will not be equal in the higher levels anymore... and vice versa. It just doesn't keep the same dynamics at different levels.
Old 26th January 2012
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They should, at the very least, sound something similar to Focals. .
IMO they're very different from Focals.

Focals are voiced mid-forward, like NS10s, Barefoots, etc.

Mid-soft (compared to above) would be some like 0300's, Genelec's, etc.

IMO Opals fall in between those extremes, which is how I like it.
mid-soft - Opals - mid-forward.

Though I doubt it would work for Purusha, he could try turning down the highs and lows on the Opals to mimic his previous Focals.
Old 26th January 2012
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I noticed the problem when compared the Focals next to them. If I level the volume of all my monitors on the monitor controller at low levels it will not be equal in the higher levels anymore... and vice versa. It just doesn't keep the same dynamics at different levels.
That doesn't surprise me considering the Opals have WAY more amp power than the Focals. I wouldn't expect it to be the same between Focals/Opals, nor would I want it to be (Focals are not for me).
Old 26th January 2012
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Though I doubt it would work for Purusha, he could try turning down the highs and lows on the Opals to mimic his previous Focals.
Good idea. I will try it
Old 26th January 2012
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Anyone here who heard Opals or Twins and the Animas maybe?
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