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Tube Mics vs. Solid State Condenser Microphones
Old 4th October 2004
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Tube Mics vs. Solid State



It seems in today's market many companies are producing very high quality solid state mics that have excellent qualities. I own both solid state and tube mics and I have a difficulties deciding which are better. Usually for vocals I have solely used tube mics because of there warmth and strong signal, but now I have found a great solid state microphone in the Brauner Phantom C. I have A/B'ed my favorite tube mic (the Neumann M149) with the Phantom C running them through decent pre-amps (my Focusrite ISA430 and an Avalon Vt-737sp which has tubes in it). For my liking the Phantom C through the Avalon was compareable if not superior to the Neumann. The reason: I could dial in the amount of tube saturation I needed without the signal becoming too noisy or muddy.

Please let me know what you guys think about solid state vs tube mics.

Thanks
Jay Martens
Nightbreed Studios
Old 5th October 2004
  #2
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I think that you already know what you need to know on this subject.

Predrag
Old 5th October 2004
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If you like what you're hearing that's the main thing.

I'm not a real big solid state fan in general, but this Schoeps MK41/CMC6 I've got here just blows the doors off same capsule with the Schoeps tube mic amp. It sounds so damned good- all full color and that.

I don't think you can generalize that way, especially now that there is so much cheapo gimmicky tube stuff around.
Old 5th October 2004
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Re: Tube Mics vs. Solid State

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Originally posted by NIGHT'SCHILD


Please let me know what you guys think about solid state vs tube mics.
I belive that you're approaching this all wrong; the issue isn't one of simply 'tube' or 'solid state'. Listen to the other Brauners, for an example of a tube based mic that is pristine in quality, and listen to any of a number of chinese import mics for smeary, distorted signals. It's not the tube, it's the overall design of the mic and capsule that determines the sound, not just the presence of a tube in the circuitry somewhere.
Old 5th October 2004
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Re: Re: Tube Mics vs. Solid State

Quote:
Originally posted by Dave Martin
I belive that you're approaching this all wrong; the issue isn't one of simply 'tube' or 'solid state'. Listen to the other Brauners, for an example of a tube based mic that is pristine in quality, and listen to any of a number of chinese import mics for smeary, distorted signals. It's not the tube, it's the overall design of the mic and capsule that determines the sound, not just the presence of a tube in the circuitry somewhere.

I would prefer a km56 instead of a km84 if I had the choice!
Old 5th October 2004
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I´m digging the Phantom C more and more.
At first I found myself rather prefering the U195 ( and there will still be situations where it might come in more handy ) however the clearness without any fuzz makes the Phantom survive better through processing like tube compressor and HW EQ.

It seems to give much substance to deal with if I can say so.

Ruphus
Old 5th October 2004
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quote:
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Originally posted by Dave Martin
"It's not the tube, it's the overall design of the mic and capsule that determines the sound, not just the presence of a tube in the circuitry somewhere."

I believe that is why I enjoy the Phantom C so much. I hear that Brauner hand crafts each mic and spends time making certain the signal is the best it can be. Where as Neumann might not spend as much quality time with each mic.
Old 5th October 2004
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Re: Re: Re: Tube Mics vs. Solid State

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Originally posted by Jmess
I would prefer a km56 instead of a km84 if I had the choice!
For most things, I'd agree. But the difference between a km56 and a km 84 is more than just a difference between having or not having a tube...
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