I am currently in the process of building a home studio. These are all potential buys. The 1073's for guitars, the API's for drums and some bass guitar, the RED 1 for keyboards and the spider for whatever the hell sounds good thru it!!! I just want to know if I'm making the right decision, thats all.
BTW, from what I heard, Neve 1089's sound identical to the 1073's but are much cheaper. Is that true?
PS I make Industrial rock, and sometimes just plain good ol' rock 'n roll.
The 1089 is the same circuitry inthe EQ and preamps sections. THe only difference is in the line section where the gain starts opposite from the 1073.. so it starts @ -20dB -> +10dB instead of the +10dB ->-20dB
The 1099 if you can find them cos they are pretty scarce from what i have seen in my short travels is a 1073 without the line section. These were used in custom 8024's and they had a seperate line section houses int he meterbirdge module over the EQ module itself. This line switching section house the switches to switch the 1099 between MIC & LINE modes and has additional gain trims for the line inputs into the console itself.
The line section to drive the 1099 inthe 8024 is driven by either a 3415 or 1272 depending on what was ordered.
Thanks Wiggy. I heard that Brent Averill refurb Neves are pretty good. Is that true. Should I go for Brent or Vintech? Also, what pre's sound good on vocals?
Really!!! Wouldnt the end result be hard to mix Jules? I was told that different Pre's for diff instruments gives each track a life of its own, making it easier to find it's place in the mix. I checked out yer studio's website Jules(really cool BTW) and you have more than 1 kind of pre, but if wut yer sayin is true then maybe I should start off with just the spider, and then slowly aquire the rest. THNX for the idea Jules
Originally posted by NathanEldred For what purpose? Is this list going to the North Pole? I think Santa might not have any Spider's in stock right now.
Originally posted by AgonizingpaiN I was told that different Pre's for diff instruments gives each track a life of its own, making it easier to find it's place in the mix.
I think you can also achieve equally, if not greater differences in color just by using different mic's, guitars, amps, etc... like they did on all those records before it became fashionable to have a rack of multi-colored pre amps.
Thanks guys, you just made my life alot easier!! I think I'll start off with the spider, unless I get the loan I'm asking for...... If I do I'm getting everything.
I just got an API 3124 this week... after being reaquitned with it this week it gave me major woody all over again like when i first used them. A truly stellar piece of kit with 4 bitchin premaps that are the bomb for drums and grts and nearly veything else. The DI's are no slouch's either and sound great on Bass and keyboards. I can not recommend this enough and would be a GREAT palce to start for any studio.
PEACE
Wiggy..
** maybe im gona have to change my stripes soon!**
Originally posted by AgonizingpaiN Really!!! Wouldnt the end result be hard to mix Jules? I was told that different Pre's for diff instruments gives each track a life of its own, making it easier to find it's place in the mix. I checked out yer studio's website Jules(really cool BTW) and you have more than 1 kind of pre, but if wut yer sayin is true then maybe I should start off with just the spider, and then slowly aquire the rest.
If your just starting out mics will make a much bigger difference then preamps. I'd invest money there. Between that and just doings lots of recording, mixing and A/B'ing to commercial CD's you'll start to get in the ballpark. It's once you've developed an ear and a mic collection that different preamps can start to shade things differently. If you want to read more, look for the shootout thread in Steve Remotes forum.
I'd probably get a couple Spiders and then worry about monitoring and microphones.
Neve modules etc. make great supplemental colors but a first class path between 16 decent mikes and the recorder along with the ability to hear what you are really doing is going to make the biggest difference of all.
I left Lynn Fuston's converter shootout wondering why people worry about mike preamps but not analog to digital converters which, in my opinion, are a lot less subtile when it comes to warmth, size, etc.